please help me a big ticking noise???????

[pontiac3100]

Help Me!!!please...a Big Ticking Noise
i really need yall help right now.
this car is my only transportation and i don't have the money to get another car.....

i had made a u turn towards my house and i did'nt think of nothing.
so i went back out in like 1/2 hour.
started her up heard some ticking for a couple seconds then went away.

but i was driving for quite sometime.
then all of a sudden she shut off.
put her in park and started her up...which took awahile.

then i proceeded to drive while in the PR parade.
made a turn then like ehh a mile i noticed some sound.
pulled into a gas station.
and opened the hood.

and the engine was mahking this loud ticking sound.....like a desil or something.
i put 2 quarts in.
same thing.
i looked at the valves that was visable in the oil cap hole and they're moving.

she runs.

oil pressure fine.
called moms.
she came started her up and i say about 10% of the ticking went away.
had her follow me home, and by the time i got ther...about another 10-20% went away.
while i just let her run the noise was separating.
i wanna say its those things that sits on top of the cam.
and the other end has like this area that goes in and the spring keep the tesion on it, while pushing the push rod which in turn pushes the lifter....

i know it's not the cam because if thats the case it would've broke.



PLEASE GUYS HELP ME

[tractorman]

So, you "put two quarts in". Do you mean engine oil? You dumped two quarts of oil into the engine? Why?

Was the engine two quarts low? And you filled it to the full mark?

Or did you just dump in two quarts of oil for fun? And it's now over-full?

Exactly what does the dipstick show right now?

This is important... get back to me with a clear and concise answer.

[IsaacHayes]

Don't know what to say other than what tractorman said. Not sure why it shut off...

[pontiac3100]

okay first off thanks for the response.

the oil that was in the car is'nt good oil so i just learned.
i think it got so hot under there the oil thinned out like water.
which lowered th epressure which made the gauge go into the red, which made the pcm shut it off.

at first the gauge reading seemed fine.
but when i came to a stop and i heard my engine.
i figured the oil pump probably sucked up air and can't get oil up in the vale train.
thats why i put the two quarts in, that and the oil i had on me was the good stuff, and it was'nt that low.

this morning i started her up only two of em' was makin' the noise.

then on my way to work it sound as if all of em' was making the noise.
then halfway there it stoppped.....as if she did'nt cause a commotion at all.

then when i got to work, all of em' again was makin' the noise.
so i went to the autozone near my job.
got 4 quarts of castrol gtx sludgeprotect.
and a can of engine restore.

went back to my job and they were quiet.
did the oil change...which i noticed when i removed the oil filter nothing cam eout but what ever was on the pump side (the screw in part)
was fine then came back....just one or two of em'.
drove for a few minutes the noise went away.
had her idle for quite sometime...nothing.

started her up cold....nothing.

drove her home, nothing.

i'm so glad that all she needed was an oil change, i was already looking into hydraulic lifters and pushrods.....
and bracing myself for a whole's days work.

[PCGUY112887]

Umm yeah....

What guage went into the red?

Car oil is car oil... if 5w-30 or 10w-30 was in it, and it wasn't 10k miles old, it's fine. May not be the best, but it won't just thin out like water.

Engine restore is thick like honey, that is why the engine is quiet all of a sudden. The noise will return.

I'm still really confused as to what you are doing. Sounds like you dumped 10 quarts or so of oil and engine restore into the engine after a light going red and it shutting off and some noise and now it's fine :P

[tractorman]

Munchausen by auto? There's some serious pathology here... and only some of it is related to oil level.

[pontiac3100]

the oil pressure gauge went into the red.
when it does the pcm shuts off the fuel supply to prevent engine damage.

the level at first was'nt low enough for it not to register on the dipstick, or turn on the low oil light.
but it was low.

and i belive the only reason the noise wentaway becuase of the new oil filter.
i did'nt dump 10qts of oil, and the oil that was used was recycleable (msp?)oil.

and i noticed when i use this oil the gauge (when the engine is really really hot) is near the red area.

with the oil i have in there now the lowest it'll go is on the 15psi mark (which is where it should be).

[Carlspike]

The engine restore (thick like honey stuff) is what has raised your oil pressure. Thicker oil = more oil pressure. I'd recommend putting a manual oil pressure gauge on the car and seeing what that reads. You may have a bad oil pressure sender, worn out bearings, or a worn out oil pump.

[tractorman]

I've just got to know- can you give more details on this "msp" recyclable oil that you were using? A brand name or something? Better yet, a link to their page?

[pontiac3100]

well i seen the truck that we get the oil in.
and it compared to the quarts we put on the shelf does seem different.

and the name of it well on the truck is quality oil...

and the oil thats in the bottles are kendal.
but those are 10w30 and 5w20.....
and the quality is 5w30.

okay your gonna find this weird i did use a manual oil gauge and adjusted the sender near the specs of what i seen on the gauge.

saturday it was twiching and low usally when the oil filter is clogged she tyicks for a couple seconds then go away and the gauge reading is low and sometimes twiches.

i used the engine restore to help her.
i've always used restore in my cars.
my gtz had a simular problem used a can of restore...it went away.
my accords, cougar (well there was no help for that(lol!), acura legend, and now the pontiac.

right now i thank god that she's fine, i was so happy when the noise went away.
now i can vouch and say gm l82 engines are tough and reliable and has some powerr....
thanks guys for your help.

tractorman i'll ask my boss what kinda oil we have....

[john_V63400]

When I frist heard a lound ticking noise I thought it was a stuck valvle, or even a lifter, but my piston was blown, and my cylinder wall was shot.

[merlot566jka]

wow, interesting read....

ticking noises and knocking noises dont 'go away'. you can cover it up with thicker oil, but that wont fix anything.

if you were low on oil, that may explain the 'took a turn and started to hear a noise'. whats happened is the oil sloshed away from the pick up and the engine went dry for a second. that may aslo explain why more oil made the problem go away. the oil change with the new thicker oil may have just covered up the damage that was done by the engine running with out oil.
if the 'noise' rears up again, its time to take a deeper look. check the oil and filter for metal flakes...if youve got flakes, you have probably lost a bearing or two.

[pontiac3100]

okay the oil that we use is kendall gt-1 oil.

as for the ticking...well mines was the pushrods.
when it first happened i opened the oil cap and felt the valve and it felt like it did'nt even move

[pontiac3100]

it was the filter....when i removed the old one the oil only came out from the oil pump side.

and i use the same oil grade.
and no flakes it even has a magnet drainplug.

[Carlspike]

When you took off the valve cover what you felt was the rocker arm. There is a good chance there was some pressure on it from the camshaft, that is why it wouldn't move. If you want the car to last then I would figure out what the problem really is. That engine restore stuff may have band aided it for now but it could get worse.