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  • #76
    Originally posted by Impetuousracer
    I'm hoping to break into the 14's N/A in my 98 Malibu. Just need drag radials if anyone has some I can borrow.
    Just learn how to launch with the street tires. You can't do much better with drag radials than you can with street tires, so IMO the drag radials aren't even worth it. If you learn the car well enough you should be able to pull 1.9 60' times with street tires, when maybe if you work at it all day, you can pull a high 1.8 60' with drag radials. I don't think its worth it. Slicks are another story, but drag radials don't do much IMO.

    Shawn
    90 Grand Prix STE 3.1 Intercooled Turbo-3100 Hybrid
    K&N, Magnaflows, No Cat, Chip, FFP Pulley, H260 Cam, No EGR.
    99 Grand Prix GT
    K&N|No Cat/ubend/res|160 tstat|shift kit|UD ALT & WP Pulleys|XP Cam|Stage 2 I/C|Pacesetters|MPS|2.9"|Custom PCM
    12.665 @ 110.44 w/2.018 60', STREET TIRES, PUMP GAS!

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    • #77
      You can't say any car should be able to do a 1.9 60'. Hell I'm runnin mid 14s and only got a 2.3

      And not like I'm doubting you, but how do you plan on getting a 98 Malibu 3100. What mods have you done to it?

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Aaron
        You can't say any car should be able to do a 1.9 60'. Hell I'm runnin mid 14s and only got a 2.3

        And not like I'm doubting you, but how do you plan on getting a 98 Malibu 3100. What mods have you done to it?
        That doesn't mean your car can't pull of 1.9 60' times, it just means you don't know how to do it yet. I can pull of 2.0 60' times all day long in our 2 door TGP with very hard tires with full tire pressure. I'm sure if you were to sit there all day and practice different launching techniques you too, could pull AT LEAST a 2.0 60' time with lower front tire pressure. It just takes practice. If you don't believe me, let me drive the car and I bet I could pull of some 2.0 60' times in it.

        Shawn
        90 Grand Prix STE 3.1 Intercooled Turbo-3100 Hybrid
        K&N, Magnaflows, No Cat, Chip, FFP Pulley, H260 Cam, No EGR.
        99 Grand Prix GT
        K&N|No Cat/ubend/res|160 tstat|shift kit|UD ALT & WP Pulleys|XP Cam|Stage 2 I/C|Pacesetters|MPS|2.9"|Custom PCM
        12.665 @ 110.44 w/2.018 60', STREET TIRES, PUMP GAS!

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        • #79
          Posting to add my cousins time for his 92 GP SE w/ 3.1(custom exhaust, custom intake as mods), I ran his car at the track and did a 17.6@76mph on a 2.34 60' time in ~90* weather @ 1100ft elevation(I think that's right for the Atlanta Dragway), the custom open filter intake he had felt like it killed all low end the 3.1 had in it..plan to track test stock airbox, modifed stock airbox, and the open filter shitty intake sometime soon at the track. I'm working on building a box/heatshield setup w/ a conical filter for my 93 GP, but I'll probably move my battery to the trunk for later plans. Anyways, I plan to run my 1990 TGP at the track very soon(opens Saturday Feb 28th, but I don't know if I'll make it up there saturday). Mods on the TGP include K&N conical filter on the turbocharger, topgun 160 chip, 160* t-stat to work w/ the chip properly for fan settings and whatnot, and a custom exhaust w/ a magnaflow cat, 2.5'' piping and a magnaflow resonator. Hoping for at least a mid-high 14 out of it since it's in great shape w/ 69K on it.
          Matt F.

          TGP 1/4 mile times
          http://photobucket.com/albums/y33/mfewtrail/
          1990 TGP Coupe VIN Database

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          • #80
            2.8 RWD 5 speed '88 Camaro - clicked a 17.071

            3.1 swap = 16.713 (only one run yet in it)

            3100 top end/roller swap coming up, and as soon as I get the 16G back, we'll have some fun
            3.1L \'88 Camaro - 16G @ 9.5psi
            222/291 @ wheels

            T61 on the way!

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            • #81
              Aaron, who said my Malibu had 3100

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              • #82
                My best 1/4 is:
                16.661 @ 79MPH with a best 60ft of 2.253

                That is racing on my 17" chrome rims with 245 rubber and full interior. I seem to think its pretty crappy due to my mods. Is that damn GOD FORSAKEN EXHAUST MANIFOLD!

                Mods:
                Ported/milled heads
                Valve Job
                Decked block
                9.75:1 C/R
                62mm TB
                Level10 Tranny
                Crane 2030 cam
                1.52 CompCams rockers


                And i also ran slower at the track with a ramair setup i made going from the TB to the headlight (it was removed). Ran best with the stock airbox on.

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                • #83
                  I'm really sorry.. found this pic and I couldn't resist.





                  I WISH my car could do 15.9!!

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                  • #84
                    Have you ever driven a 3.4/5-speed? I ran the car 12 times in MO, and 16 up here in CO. MY BEST time is 2.3. The car isn't capable of better yet.

                    Fancy that, a TGP can beat me off the line. Who woulda known???

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Aaron
                      Have you ever driven a 3.4/5-speed? I ran the car 12 times in MO, and 16 up here in CO. MY BEST time is 2.3. The car isn't capable of better yet.

                      Fancy that, a TGP can beat me off the line. Who woulda known???
                      Fancy that, a bone stock '93 Sunbird with 142k miles can beat you off the line.

                      Sorry man, I had to.

                      I pulled 2.28 60' at the first 60v6 meet. I think I pulled 2.25 immediately before cooking my clutch at the second meet, but I seem to have misplaced that slip... I know it hooked up and launched hard til the clutch slipped.
                      60v6's original Jon M.

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                      • #86
                        The 3.2 Maroon car was always had a good 0-60 ft time...I think almost as good you you Jon. But spare me the agony of that Quarter.....I always wondered what it did when I put the 272 W/ adjustable rockers, bigger exhaust, and injectors....Because it was pulling lightyears better after that....then a piston cracked...That engine ate a quart of oil every 500 miles.....the tops pistons were filled with carbon....Detonation city...First engine I've ever built I got it to last almost 2 years/40,000+ miles stressed out like that. Not too bad....not too good either.....
                        Lorenzo
                        '11 DODGE Challenger R/ T Classic 57M6 Green with Envy "Giant Green Squid"
                        '92 PONTIAC Grand Prix SE 34TDCM5 "Red Lobster"

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                        • #87
                          I'm fine with my 60' time, it isn't dynamite, not at all. But that is the best that the car was capable of when I ran it. We all know how the 3.1's are, and the 3.1 turbo, it KILLS me off the line. But hey, none of that matters after my tires grip right???

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Aaron
                            Have you ever driven a 3.4/5-speed? I ran the car 12 times in MO, and 16 up here in CO. MY BEST time is 2.3. The car isn't capable of better yet.

                            Fancy that, a TGP can beat me off the line. Who woulda known???
                            A TGP with a 16 year old that had their license for 2 days driving it, and the tires didn't so much as chirp. If you're spinning your tires at all, thats your problem. Pushing your foot to the floor and dumping the clutch is not how you launch a car.

                            Your car is a 5 speed...you should EASILY be able to pull a 2.0 60' time. Being a 5 speed is a HUGE advantage, it lets you launch in your powerband if you want. Like I said, let me drive the car and you will be surprised.

                            My dad was pulling 2.2 60's in his car the first time he drove it at the track. After 5 or so runs he was down to 2.0 60' times, and by the end of the day he had done a best of 1.86, and now about 50 runs after that he is down to 1.76. All it takes is practice. Your car DOES have the power to pull a 2.0 60', it has a little more torque than you think.
                            90 Grand Prix STE 3.1 Intercooled Turbo-3100 Hybrid
                            K&N, Magnaflows, No Cat, Chip, FFP Pulley, H260 Cam, No EGR.
                            99 Grand Prix GT
                            K&N|No Cat/ubend/res|160 tstat|shift kit|UD ALT & WP Pulleys|XP Cam|Stage 2 I/C|Pacesetters|MPS|2.9"|Custom PCM
                            12.665 @ 110.44 w/2.018 60', STREET TIRES, PUMP GAS!

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                            • #89
                              Launching is a mixture of things. Car, driver, tires, tranny, temperature, and TRACK CONDITIONS! VHT is what makes all the difference in the world.
                              I've raced at 5 different tracks in Canada and the US, and every track is different. I've also raced before and after the VHT is put down, and WOW is all there is to say.
                              I've gotten pretty good at launching my car, and I'm pretty consistent on getting low 2.1 60' times, but with the glue, 2.0s is normal.

                              And just to add to the times, I've pulled many 14.7 second runs, with a best of 14.72. And I don't even have the Gen 3 top end!

                              Here's the slip, if it worked.
                              Franz

                              1990 Z24-NA 3.1L
                              14.72 @ 92.24 MPH
                              14.89 @ 94.92 MPH

                              The boost is coming....

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                              • #90
                                14.7 seems to be about the normal for the Gen II 3.1.

                                I had about 1/4 tank of fuel on this run. The fuel sending unit on the '88 Beretta is near the front of the tank and with BFG drag radial it ran dry as I studdered off the line.



                                My buddy was using race gas in his GTP and I poored in a few gallons. This is with a Superchips, Inc. chip, 3.1 bored .030", Crane 2030, Steve Hamm headers, no cat with dynomax cat back.



                                Hear is a write-up from awhile back:



                                A little roadcourse time:



                                Current write-up:

                                Norm - \'88 GT - soon to be V8.
                                http://www.beretta.net/board/ib3/iko...t=ST;f=9;t=261

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