3800 Vs 3400/3500

[GPXSS]

Anyone got pics of the 3800 block? Ive never seen just the block.

http://www.thrashercharged.com/tech_htm/engine_tear.shtm

at least a few things the 3800 has going for it,
oil pump is in the timing cover, so im guessing it can be replaced without pulling the engine, and there is no oil pump driveshaft.

the bottom end has more side area so that the caps sit up in the block, rather than being exposed.

I dont buy that the area's around the cylinders are stronger than on a 60º, we have the entire lifter valley area tying the 2 banks together.. the 3800 is very open.. almost like running twin inline 3's.

I guess overall I just prefer the compactness of the 60º more than anything. You can virtually fit it in any application that used an I-4, and probably double your torque output instantly.

All you 3800 guys, id really like it if you'd bring some advantage data to the table here instead of "3800 rox U Sux0rz!". In all of these threads we have made, not once has someone come to the plate with measurement specs.

[Norm '88 GT]

Autospeed is a subscription website. Sorry about the band width.

[ikessky]

I wasn't trying to offend you Norm. Just giving you some crap!

[bszopi]

I think all that info is already posted on the actual site somewhere....

[brian89gp]

Anyone got pics of the 3800 block? Ive never seen just the block.

http://www.thrashercharged.com/tech_htm/engine_tear.shtm

at least a few things the 3800 has going for it,
oil pump is in the timing cover, so im guessing it can be replaced without pulling the engine, and there is no oil pump driveshaft.

the bottom end has more side area so that the caps sit up in the block, rather than being exposed.

I dont buy that the area's around the cylinders are stronger than on a 60º, we have the entire lifter valley area tying the 2 banks together.. the 3800 is very open.. almost like running twin inline 3's.

I guess overall I just prefer the compactness of the 60º more than anything. You can virtually fit it in any application that used an I-4, and probably double your torque output instantly.

All you 3800 guys, id really like it if you'd bring some advantage data to the table here instead of "3800 rox U Sux0rz!". In all of these threads we have made, not once has someone come to the plate with measurement specs.

The deep skirt block with crossbolted mains is what makes the 3800 folk brag so much about handling gobs of power.

[Guest]

brian89gp wrote:
The deep skirt block with crossbolted mains is what makes the 3800 folk brag so much about handling gobs of power.

You are wrong there. Most people in 3800 forums don't sit around and brag about how our engine can handle gobs of power... Because both the 3400 and the 3800 have their disadvantages and their advantages, and there is nothing you can do to change that. So quit bitching and getting mad when someone legitamately puts you people in your place.

The facts are there, and 3800 owners don't drive in a 3400, and 3400 owners dont drive around in 3800's... Your opinions are biased because you drive that engine. And its so blatently obvious! But, being a proud owner of a 3800, i won't sit here and say the 3800 is better then the 3400, and i certainly won't say the 3400 is better then the 3800, because anybody can argue it either way and win. It's a stalemate. Us 3800 owners won't be influenced by the complaints made by 3400 owners about our engines. The same is said vice versa.

I haven't heard many good arguments anyways going either way, from anyone in this entire thread! I know immature people with no lives are going to say something like "blah blah blah, you think your better thats all you think.. You think this, you feel this... We know this, we know that, we are this we have this, we can do this, blah blah blah" Give it a rest, get legitamate arguments, because people on the other side of the argument have the exact same mindset against you. I was actually thinking of buying a 3400 engine before i found this thread to build on and customize, like we have done to our 3800, but when i read some of the posts people leave on here i got turned right off because i refuse to ever become as naive or pathetic and discriminant as most 3400 owners on here strike me as. :P

[Anonymous]

I was actually thinking of buying a 3400 engine before i found this thread to build on and customize, like we have done to our 3800, but when i read some of the posts people leave on here i got turned right off because i refuse to ever become as naive or pathetic and discriminant as most 3400 owners on here strike me as. :P

Poor excuse

I'd buy an engine for the engine, not cause of what people on the INTERNET think of you! Christ...

[ikessky]

I'd buy an engine for the engine, not cause of what people on the INTERNET think of you!

I'll give that a stamp of approval!

[Rhedalert]

i won't sit here and say the 3800 is better then the 3400

might wanna check your other posts

[SappySE107]

This thread is done, and dan is gone. He isn't smart enough to be in a conversation about 3800s.