3800 Vs 3400/3500

[Rhedalert]

And if someone gave me a 3800 for free, straight to ebay! I can get more for my $

[Guest]

Oh, and another note...

Notice how the fastest known Gran Prix in the world is powered by a 3800???

What is the fastest known Regal GS in N.A. powered by?
You guessed it.. The 3800

Check out www.intense-racing.com and check out the member cars, get a feel for the 10.9 second GTP....

Or maybe a 11.8 SSEi

Then theres also Scott Cooks 10.6 second run in a Gran Prix (3800)

I haven't found to many aftermarket dealers for the 3100 or 3400 on here, although there is quite a bit for the 3800 like intense, ADTR, Summit, Domestic Performance, and those are just off the top of my head.

If the 3800 is so bad, why would GM ever use it in the Regal, GN, Bonneville, Gran Prix, Impala, LeSabre, Lumina, Monte Carlo, Olds 88, Olds 98, Park Avenue, Firebird, Camaro, and Cutlass??
Thats 14 different applications that i thought of in less than a minute! I know there is MANY other cars that the 3800 was put into. Do you really think GM would put the same engine in so many cars if it was as bad as you make it seem to be?? I think we can safely assume GM would of put the best engine they had (for the application) in the specific vehicle.

I don't think a 3400 could pull a Park Avenue around for long, do you?

Can you honestly say a 3400 can be pushed to 600hp like the 3800 has been pushed to by the Intense Racing team? I don't think so
Horsepower isn't something i care to much about though, I am a fan of TORQUE, and i'm proud of owning plenty of that.

Matt

[Guest]

So to be an obnoxious idiot with no other things left to argue (like Rhedalert), i say : HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA just like that fool did

[Guest]

Oh, and if i was given a 3400, i wouldn't bring it to ebay, no way. It would never sell, i'd just give it to an auto wrecker, not a salvager, a WRECKER, and yes, i would GIVE it to them, maybe even pay them to take it. (I might need to)

Rhedalert Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:23 pm Post subject:

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AHAHAHA!!!

[robby1870]

Oh, and another note...

Notice how the fastest known Gran Prix in the world is powered by a 3800???

What is the fastest known Regal GS in N.A. powered by?
You guessed it.. The 3800

Check out www.intense-racing.com and check out the member cars, get a feel for the 10.9 second GTP....

Or maybe a 11.8 SSEi

Then theres also Scott Cooks 10.6 second run in a Gran Prix (3800)

I haven't found to many aftermarket dealers for the 3100 or 3400 on here, although there is quite a bit for the 3800 like intense, ADTR, Summit, Domestic Performance, and those are just off the top of my head.

If the 3800 is so bad, why would GM ever use it in the Regal, GN, Bonneville, Gran Prix, Impala, LeSabre, Lumina, Monte Carlo, Olds 88, Olds 98, Park Avenue, Firebird, Camaro, and Cutlass??
Thats 14 different applications that i thought of in less than a minute! I know there is MANY other cars that the 3800 was put into. Do you really think GM would put the same engine in so many cars if it was as bad as you make it seem to be?? I think we can safely assume GM would of put the best engine they had (for the application) in the specific vehicle.

I don't think a 3400 could pull a Park Avenue around for long, do you?

Can you honestly say a 3400 can be pushed to 600hp like the 3800 has been pushed to by the Intense Racing team? I don't think so
Horsepower isn't something i care to much about though, I am a fan of TORQUE, and i'm proud of owning plenty of that.

Matt

I read 3 lines and realized all you wrote was just "blah blah blah blah blah......etc". WHO CARES if they 3800 is the fastest in whatever........its a big chunk of overused iron

[Guest]

Same can be said for the 3400, except its just an underpowered wood burner

[SappySE107]

So they put it in heavier cars cause it has the torque to tow them around. Its called being smart. Doesnt mean the 3800 is great by any means. How many cars had the 2.0, 2.2, 2.5 pushrods? Are those great motors too? Can a 3400 be pushed to 600 hp...you dont know so stop assuming either way. Aftermarket support is there because GP owners are sheep and will pay insane prices for parts for their iron head trash. GM put a supercharger on it, so people were automatically going to jump on it. True, the TGP has boost but its production numbers were severely limited.

3400s sell on ebay, stop being a moron.

How many 3400s catch on fire? How many 3800 posts have I seen where an engine bay fire is involved. W00T!!! L67 Krispies!

[SappySE107]

Check out the 3500. Displacement being = the 3800 will lose.

[Anonymous]

The 3800 is also much more durable than the 3400, because we used to own a 96 GTP with the 3.4L and the engine in it blew.

Umm... the 3.4 you are speaking of is a DOHC engine, not a pushrod (the 3.4DOHC have their own issues but we woun't get into that). No 3400 was ever in a GTP, or any stock w-body for that matter. Totally different engine we're talking here.

A lumina is FAR lighter than a Bonneville, or even a 3800 GTP.

According to edmunds.com the 2003 GTP Curb Weight: 3583 lbs.
That is not much difference from any Lumina. Additional weight would be from the 3800 engine

Have fun with your lowsy 3.4's

With love, from Deutchland

Go row you're Bonny boat out to sea, and when you get there don't forget to chuck that anchor in the water so you don't sink.
(You don't know what you're talking about.)

[Guest]

What are you smoking??

How about this: Find me some blown 3800's, and we'll compare how many blown 3800's there are to how many blown 3400's there are

Good luck, because i have never seen a single blown 3800

Did you know theres a 3.0 engine that makes more power then your 3.4?

Oh and guess who sold it? FORD although it was built by Yamaha
220HP
Thats 5 hp more then the 3.4 from a 3.0!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[ikessky]

If GM wanted to stick a 3800 in all their larger vehicles, why does almost every minivan I've looked at have a 3400 engine? Minivans are not performance vehicles, but they are bigger and heavier than most cars.

BTW, the Grand National had a turbo charged 3.8L. It was RWD. It did not have a 3800 which is FWD.

[robby1870]

Are we talking about Fords?? Didnt think so. Oh, and it doesnt matter how much power some other motor makes, all we care about is that the 3800 is overused and low-tech. Yeah, you can say a 3x00 is low tech too, but, at least it has aluminum heads, and is internally balanced, which means it doesnt have a spare tire for a crank pulley. Im glad you think 3800s are gods gift to motors, maybe you'll keep wasting your money on overpriced parts. Your comparision about Ford's....err, I mean Yamaha's motor is like saying an LS1 is worthless compared to a NASCAR V8. I hope you waste your money and get someone else to waste their time modifying your 3800. I would rather spend my own time building my OWN motor, and have something I can be proud of. Money will make anything fast, but building a motor yourself is priceless. Oh, and could you use more smilies next post?

[Anonymous]

Did you know theres a 3.0 engine that makes more power then your 3.4?

Oh and guess who sold it? FORD although it was built by Yamaha
220HP
Thats 5 hp more then the 3.4 from a 3.0!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, and did you know theres a 3.5L engine that has more power than your 3800 or H.O Yamaha engine? Hows 285HP n/a sound? Made by Nissan and considered the best V6 in the world.. so whats you f'n point??

[Anonymous]

I see we've attracted the attention of a troll.

[bszopi]

I just love it whenever we get into conversations like this (similar to the LSD discussion on GMF), we always get someone who likes to talk trash and ALWAYS bring up Intense. Why is that? Oh, that's right... cause you guys like wasting your money. Intense is a flippin' rip-off if you ask me.