Generation Discussion

[SappySE107]

There are gen 1 and gen 2 iron head actually. Small valve heads are gen 1. The 3.4 camaro is a gen 2 3.4 iron head. Yes, it can all get confusing if you haven't been around this site forever:P

[85_305]

Yes, it can all get confusing if you haven't been around this site forever:P

lol no joke man. I am just gonna pretend I didn't read about the different generations of 3.4's so i dont go and off myself lol.

[Guest]

There are gen 1 and gen 2 iron head actually. Small valve heads are gen 1. The 3.4 camaro is a gen 2 3.4 iron head. Yes, it can all get confusing if you haven't been around this site forever:P

This is the VERY first time I've ever heard such a thing, since well everyone else seems to know that the iron head 660s were all genI design. Valve size is only one variable in the mix.

[SappySE107]

Hmm, I thought the original small journal crank would signify gen 1 vs gen 2 iron head as well.

[Guest]

Hmm, I thought the original small journal crank would signify gen 1 vs gen 2 iron head as well.

Uhh no. :-?

I really hope you're trying to be funny, failing, but I hope that's your intent. besides there were small journal 2.8s with the large valves, in the "H.O." version.

Iron head/inline valves on a 660 = genI (I mentioned the inline valves simply because there are a couple sets of genI aluminium heads floating around.)

[SappySE107]

Why do you hope I was trying to be funny? I wish you would drop your lame ass attitude when we try to have a discussion. I don't know a lot about the iron heads or rwd apps so I always thought there was a gen 1 and gen 2 iron head. Yes, they had HO versions but I associated the newer motors with the larger crank mains and fuel injections and larger valves as being gen 2 iron head. If you want to say the 3.4 is generation 1 with the 1980 2.8 carb, then thats cool. There is not gen 4 then I take it. Thats just crank, rods, heads, intakes, but its still the same basic block design as gen 3.

[geoffinbc]

I am with Raven. The journal size or valve size was was not enough to signify a new generation of motor. Completly new heads or the redesign of a block is enough to signify a generation change. Hence the Gen II and III motors.

The SBC was considered a Gen I motor until the LT1 was released and it went through valve size changes, flat hyd and solid cams and then roller cams, bearing changes, seal changes and some off shoots like the 400 siamese cylinder block. But it remained gen I until they added reverse cooling new water pump style and a different ignition.

[SappySE107]

Thats cool, like I said, im not the one to ask on iron head stuff. It made sense to me but if its all gen 1 for you guys, thats fine. Its a term, nothing more.

[Guest]

I figured as the curator of this site, you'd have your head a little less into being all DOHC and actually check into the information on the other versions of the 660.

I mean I try and learn as much as I can about all generations of the 660 along with other engines.

I mean it's common friggen knowledge that all iron head 660s are considered "genI", people who barely know anything about the 660 seem to understand this. *shrug*

And no I'm not saying that because you run the site you should be the all knowing, but basic things like generations I would have thought would not be a question.

[SappySE107]

For someone that has been here for a long time, you sure do assume a lot of stupid shit about me.

[85_305]

For someone that has been here for a long time, you sure do assume a lot of stupid shit about me.

[Guest]

For someone that has been here for a long time, you sure do assume a lot of stupid shit about me.

Yep, I guess I do, apparently you haven't taken the time to learn about this basic information though and then go posting that something is not what it is, like there being two generations og the iron head and then reasons why this would be, that make absolutly no sense. Like you tell other people, and I do, learn about it, before you say something, or you make yourself look like an ass.

Look at it this way, knowing the generations of this engine is like knowing how to tie your shoes before you go running, simple shit.

[SappySE107]

Make an offer, you obviously deserve to own this site more than me.

[bszopi]

Hey girls, quit arguing....

[Guest]

Make an offer, you obviously deserve to own this site more than me.

As usual you skew things in such a way to derail the topic, or the part of the topic that is being discussed.