I've heard bad things........

[bszopi]

I'm at 130,000 miles on my stock 4T60E (although I do have a tranny cooler), and beat the piss out of it in a different way, ie not keeping the fluid full. As I've stated before, it has a leak around the axle seal that I just don't want to fix. I usually check the fluid when it starts to slip in corners. Usually by that time, when I pull the dipstick out, its warped from the heat. Yet the tranny is still going strong.

[Quinky]

How can't you?? Why not?? Why can't you compair two transmission for reliablility when they are being using in the applications they are designed for?? I don't get why you don't seem to understand that...

You are one of how many people out there with a 60 in there car??? I am talking about average numbers.. My shop rebuilds in average 300 - 350 60/65's a year... The average failure rate is between 100,000 - 140,000km.. The number of 40/45's we see is a lot less... The average failuer rate is between 250,000 - 300,000km... How can you not compair that.. You take a car with a 60/65e in it, and you take a car with a 40/45 in it.. You know the transmission in the car with the 40/45 in it on average lasts longer, how can you not take that into consideration? Especialy when the price of a rebuilt transmission is between $1800 - $2200

A 40/45 when run in the applications its been designed for is simply more reliable then a 60/65.. The 60/65s simply on average fail much sooner then a 40/45's....

[vsop4me3.1]

you can't accurately compare the two unless you have the same cars with the same engines. all the factors must be the same to get the best results, weight and power. it's just apples and oranges until then.

[imported_germ]

like i said, im not going to comment anymore.....


but i have to on this.....


just because YOUR shop fixes XXX 4t60e's and fixes XX 4t40/45's, that doesnt mean shit.


ive fucked a lot of red heads, does that mean the rest of you have?

[vsop4me3.1]

ive fucked a lot of red heads, does that mean the rest of you have?

I've never banged a redhead

[sharkey]

so what your trying to say is you cant compare the reliability of a 2.2l to a 3.8l supercharged, because they arent in the same car.

you can argue all you like, but go around your town to all the transmission shops and ask the techs what they think a more RELAIBLE transmission is for the vehicle its designed to be in. garenteed they will say the 4t40e

[Quinky]

you can't accurately compare the two unless you have the same cars with the same engines. all the factors must be the same to get the best results, weight and power. it's just apples and oranges until then.

I hate making my self look like an idiot for arguing about this over the net, but I feel you are handing out miss informed and poor advice..

So then you are saying you can't compare the reliability of an Import to the reliability of a Domestic then?? All because they aren't the same make, they aren't built by the same manufature, they aren't the same motor.. Hell nothing is the same about them.. Yet every day someone thinks about it and compairs the reliability of the two cars..

I am still talking apples to apples here.. In plain english I have said that you take the 60/65 transmission, and put it in the cars it was designed for, behind the motors it was designed for, with the power ratings it was designed to handle, you put a normal person behind the wheel, and get them to drive the way the average population does and they fail on average between x amount of km and x amount of km..

Now you take the 40/45 transmissio, and put it in the cars that it was designed for, behind the motors it was designed for, with the power ratings it was designed to handle, again you put a normal person behind the wheel and get them to drive the average number of km a normal person does.. These two transmissions will last longer..

The whole point of this topic has been reliability.. How does the facts that I have shown not proven that a 40/45e is more reliable??

[imported_germ]

..... How does the facts that I have shown not proven that a 40/45e is more reliable??

facts? did you say facts? because all i see is your opinion and everyone elses opinion.

so are you saying your opinion is better than others?

and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.

so lets do the math.... opinion = asshole

so are you saying your asshole is better than others. :raises eyebrow:


you still cant compare the two tranny's no matter what because each tranny has its bad and each tranny has its good.

so basically, the only person your trying to convince is me, brad, and a couple other individuals. and i dont think your convincing enough to make anyone change their minds.



and as an fyi, its not the tranny itself that is bad on the 4t60e, its the sensors (TCC and PWM) that cause the failures.

[geoffinbc]

Alright this is going nowhere