What T5 should I be looking for?

[robertisaar]

Lenco?

i mean, if you're going this far, you might as well go for the best...

the 2004-r: IDK... the 660s kind got screwed when it came to RWD stuff... you could always grab a 700r4/4l60 from either a S-10 or camaro and swap internals from a beefier one...

maybe this will help? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...metric_pattern

[bszopi]

Well, in my browsing last night, I think I finally found a solution! It appears that the 97+ F-bodies with the 3800 also have the starter on the driver's side. Since the 97+ 4L60E's have a removable bellhousing, I can use an F-body bellhousing and bolt it up to any 97+ 4L60E, including ones from TCI capable of 600hp (Super Street Fighter series). Here is a pic of a 3800 4L60E bellhousing...

[robertisaar]

good deal, TCI tranny controller as well?

[Superdave]

Badass!

[bszopi]

good deal, TCI tranny controller as well?

But, of course. Well, that is unless someone like FAST comes out with an all-in-one PCM that will allow control of the engine and tranny. I still have several years until I'm to that point, so maybe it will be available when I need it.

And yes Dave, I was thinking the exact same thing. Honestly, I'm suprised it hasn't come across the site(s) in the past, since its been an option for over 10 yrs now.

[IsaacHayes]

If the 4l60-e wasn't electronic line pressure, you could use 16149396 $DF to run it all....

[bszopi]

Not sure how good $DF would be for controlling boost...

[IsaacHayes]

Well now, I just made you spill some info! haha!

[Scott_68B]

FYI, there are plenty of guys running T5's in MGBs behind 302 Fords that put out at least 300 ft/lbs of torque with no issues. They are light cars though.

-- Scott

[CNCguy]

The Ford Racing S-D T5 is only rated at 330 Ft/lbs. It's great for an MGB but you are looking at more power and a heavier car. I have one in my MG but if I had it to do over, I would probably go with a 700R4.

If you go with a manual be sure the check the length of the input shaft length and pilot bushing area. All 60V6s since the LX9 have a shallower hole in the crank and the Ford input shaft bottoms out in the hole. You have to cut about 1/4" off the end or drill the hole deeper.

[Raffaelli]

Well,(on a mustang T5) if you could change the input shaft, bellhousing, and clutch setup to 660, I guess it might work.

I dont know about a t5 being the weakest link either. I swapped a Turbocoupe 4 cyl T5 (one of the weakest ford units) into my 86 GT. Didnt break it and I thrashed the crud out of it. Keep in mind that that was with ~200hp/300tq v8

A 4:1 first gear is amazing at these power levels. The thing gripped and go'ed hard.

So if it was me with a 660 stang, Id get both a camaro and mustang T5. Try to fit the camaro input shaft into the mustang box. Use the stock trans mount so the driveshaft will fit. Plus your speedometer wont have issues too.

It might work, it might not. Just have to try.

[Supraboy]

Dude, i am useing a t5 from a 96 3800 camaro behind my rwd 3.4tdc project, it has the big v8 input spline dimensions, a desireable first gear for torque capacity, Is most definetly a WC trans, is the correct bolt patern for a 60degreev6 and has the correct starter orientation. Look into it if you really want a manual. oh and if you want a different shifter orientation, just swap out the tail section.

[ForcedFirebird]

You guys are over complicating things...

98+ f-body 4l60e with the driver's side bell housing, and swap the valve body from a 93 4l60 (non-e).

I actually know a guy who might be selling his in the near future. He is running a 3800 (IIRC) stall and see's 1.8-1.9 60's with a 275hp 3800, and traps a 12.8 @ 105mph.

I wouldn't trust a t5 with a car that weighs close to 3k lbs and want to be in the sub 10 second range.

[bszopi]

As I stated above, now that I found that the 97+4L60E comes with the correct bellhousing, I will be going that route instead of the T5. I will probably just go with a stock one for now until I can save up the +3k for the TCI one. I will probably keep the electronics and get a controller for it so that I can mess with the shifting abilities via a laptop.

[robertisaar]

i MIGHT have a way to avoid the TCI controller.... and for MUCH less.

it involves a 93-95 C1500 ECM wired as a TCM... i'm working on the 93 XDF at the moment, and someone already did the 94 or 95 or both, i can't remember what 0D applies to.

BUT

they were set up from the factory to control a 4l60e...