What T5 should I be looking for?

[bszopi]

Although I'm still not 100% that I am going with a T5 for the Mustang project, it seems like a logical choice. With that said, which T5 should I be looking for? Browsing around I have found ones for Mustangs, F-bodies and S-series trucks. I'm pretty sure I don't want a truck one, due to the location of the shifter. But, would an F-body be better than a Mustang one, when mating up to a 60V6? One listing I saw mentioned the in and out spline counts. Is there a difference on the in spline count between the GM and Ford units? The output I could care less about as I will need a custom driveshaft most likely anyway, so that can be dealt with.

Oh, and if anyone has one they want to get rid of, let me know (even if it doesn't work)! Right now, I'd just like to get one so I can mate it up to the block and start figuring out mounts and such. I bet even a case would work for what I need. When time comes, I will probably shell out some $$ for a decent one.

[robertisaar]

i think chevrolet ones use a 26 spline input shaft and ford's are 10 spline?

or is that output?

oh, and

T56 or GTFO. better power handling anyway, and you'll be able to pull monster fuel economy. from the way it sounds, anything less than a world-class T5 is going to be the weakest link anyway.

[bszopi]

I was looking into T56s as well... Do they mount up the same? Nice thing is I KNOW there is a bellhousing available for a T5 that will mount up to a FWD 60V6. If the bellhousing bolt pattern is the same, then a T56 would be great. I'd just have to save up that much more money.

[IsaacHayes]

how much power? turbo?

[robertisaar]

how much power? Turbo?

1500 whp, n/a

[pocket-rocket]

Strait from Advances website:

93 Mustang GT

10 1/2" Clutch, 10 Spline, 1 1/16" Hub

97 Camaro Z28

DIAMETER INCHES 11" Diameter; SPLINE DIAMETER 1.125; # OF SPLINES 26 Splines; DIAMETER MM 280mm Diameter

I don't know if it was Beck Arnley's generic picture, but it looked like a pull type pressure plate on the Camaro too.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Clutch-Set-Beck-Arnley_18030344-P_244_R|GRP60006_833407724___

[robertisaar]

10 and 26, DAMN I'M GOOD!

[pocket-rocket]

I imagine if need be, you could swap out input shafts if you absolutely had to. I know the big difference between my 4 cylinder M5OD-R1 Mazda built 2WD in my truck vs the one in a 4WD is the output shaft, and they can be swapped out.

TRS has a nice T5 information page. It tells years, models, gear ratios, torque ratings.

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/T5ID.htm

http://www.5speeds.com/t5/

http://www.5speeds.com/t5.htm

I dug all of this up when I was considering a 5.0/T5 swap for my Ranger... If you go to 5speeds.com's home page, they have a CGI chick that talks, lol. If you pause her, she will follow your mouse around.

[bszopi]

http://www.britishcarconversions.com/component/virtuemart/?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=56&category_id=28

Guess if I use the above bellhousing, then I would need to get the Mustang T5. Maybe Marc will chime in, as I know he's done at least a couple of these...

[Superdave]

from all my research on this very subject i've come to the conclusion that the T5 is a waste of time. It is light, just a few lbs heavier than a HM282 but unless you dump tons of money into it you'll have a seriously weak link.

the T56 is almost as heavy as a 700R-4 but it's rock solid.

I decided that if i go through with my plans i'll be using a built 700R-4. The ~10% more loss of power will be canceled out by the extremely fast shifting, the ability to use a trans brake and the consistent times. Plus it comes in a metric bell housing


Just some weight info..

a T5 is 75 lbs,
700 R4 is 134 lbs
HM282 is about 65 lbs
T56 is 125 lbs

[bszopi]

What would you do as far as the starter for a 700-R4? I would much rather have an automatic, especially for racing. I started looking into the 98+ 4L60/5-Es, since they have a removable bellhousing, but I just wasn't sure if a dual-pocket bellhousing would bolt up to one or not.

[Superdave]

I planned on taking a sawzall to the bellhousing to make the clearance for the starter and then making a sheet metal cover for it.

[IsaacHayes]

My god those manual trans are light compared to a 4T60-E... I could curl that 282 with one arm!! LOL Even the T56 is not that bad...

[geldartb]

wth my crappy 4t45 weighs like 187lbs.
if i wanted 5spd i could shave off roughly my body weight by going 282.

[bszopi]

How about a 200-4R? Still have the bellhousing issue, but I just don't see that going away. Would be nice to be able to figure out a way to mount the starter on the other side of the block!