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    Hello, i did a 5 speed swap on my turbo 3.1 and think i broke it the first day. Not going to really know what happened until i pull it back out. The slave and master cylinder are new and bled properly. Car WONT go into gear while running. Im 100% positive its not the hydrolic assembly. What could cause this? Didnt break in properly? Fried the clutch? messed up the fork/throw out bearing? Transmission no good? PLEASE i need your guys help! Thank you for reading.

  • #2
    External or internal slave?
    Lifting my front wheels, one jack at a time.

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    • #3
      which 5 speed? a getrag?

      have you checked your shift cables and the shift arms on the tranny to make sure they are actually moving with the shifter?
      Past Builds;
      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
      Current Project;
      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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      • #4
        If it's internal be sure the pedal is set for right engagement.
        Lifting my front wheels, one jack at a time.

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        • #5
          Its external slave, hm282, shift cables and shift arms good and move freely. Car will go into all the gear when off. Maybe test driving it at 14 psi messed something up... is my guess, when i got home it was smoking but i thought it was the heatwrap i had put on... could have very well been the clutch. Will a bad/blown clutch create a gear lockout effect?

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          • #6
            the 282 will take alot more than 14 PSI to break something.. lol

            it sounds like the slave isn't pushing the fork all the way, or the TO bearing failed.. It is possible that you killed the clutch disk though, smoking a little is normal (just like new brakes) but alot could be a problem. what kind of clutch was it?
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • #7
              sounds like you can't fully disengage the clutch. i had that happen on a stock 85 cav. the clutch fork cracked just before the TO bearing, and was flexing when i stepped on the clutch.
              Andy

              sigpic

              fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
              fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

              62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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              • #8
                It was a cheap OEM clutch. What would cause the T/O bearing to fail? Or like torq455 said, could have a messed up fork.

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                • #9
                  lol cheap clutch FTL. I doubt it would stand 14psi for long...
                  sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                  1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                  16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                  Original L82 Longblock
                  with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                  Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                  • #10
                    sorry im bad with abbreviations... whats FTL stand for? I hope its just the clutch!

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                    • #11
                      for the lose... lol internet geek speak.
                      sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                      1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                      16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                      Original L82 Longblock
                      with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                      Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                      • #12
                        Considering those clutches can't hold up to a stock 3.1 i bet that's your problem.


                        search Ebay for XTR and EZ clutches, the stage 3 6 puck for the HM282 works very well.
                        Past Builds;
                        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                        Current Project;
                        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                        • #13
                          i REALLY hope its the clutch... if so all it took was 7 minutes and about 10 shifts lol.... Im going to take it apart and see. So you think the disc is smoked right down to the tabs? Any tips on what to look for would be great! I really appreciate the help guys, thank you.

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                          • #14
                            doubt it'd hold much over 6 psi.

                            f...the lot?
                            Andy

                            sigpic

                            fastest 1/8: 10.19@ 67.17
                            fastest 1/4: 16.16@ 82.70

                            62mm TB, 1.6 roller tip rockers, Ostrich 2.0, UD pulley, TB heater bypass, K&N, 180* stat, No cat, 99Grand AM dual cooling fans. 4T65E swap FDR 3.69, EP LSD, F.A.S.T. transmission controller, TransGo shift kit.

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                            • #15
                              you have a releasing problem, could be hydralic or could be the fork, or release bearing itself. if you smoked the clutch it would go into gear, the clutch would just slip.

                              ive had a hell of a time bleeding those hydralics, id try it again.

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