Suspension Thread

[dohcfiend]

ok feel free to chime in but i would like to see a master list of suspension parts for the wbodies.

rear coilover kit and billet upper engine mount: fast foward performance
front and rear stb: held motorsports
front and rear coilover kit: held motorsports
rear trailing arms: GMPP(peeps say the 97+ gp ones fit)
rear sway bar/bushings/endlinks: addco(available through summit)
performance struts: kyb gr2(available at almost any parts store)
rear trailing arms: intense and zzp(assuming the 97+ fits)
rear lateral arms(i think they are called): ?????
rear lateral arm bushings: ????
front sway bar: ?????
front sway bar bushings: ????
front control arms: ????
front control arm bushings: ??????

can any1 help me out with the question marks???

[tijuana_no]

this is good thread ! i hope it get's answers or questions .i have a question.i was looking at ffd's coil overs ,but you have to remove the rear swaybar correct.and i was also looking at addco's rear swaybar.so,what product it better,may be we should look for the better options for performance.or is there a thread on that that i miss.

king chalupa ( i like that lol ) i haven't say thanx for pointing me to the meet in richmond when i was there.i went and had fun ,i meet nice people , a guy with a nice volvo and a young dud with a 78 blue camaro . i had fun ,i even had buffalo wings and a couple ying lings. thanx again

[DarksideGA]

i didnt think you could use struts in conjunction with coilovers..? but as far as they go, see if kyb makes the agx struts for your car. much better performance and their stiffness is adjustable.

[tijuana_no]

i was wrong you remove the mono leaf spring not the swaybar.

[sil]

how about the front/rear big disk conversions ?

[DarksideGA]

gagt has a front end brake conversion hotw to guide that uses c5/c6 calipers and impala rotors.

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62144&highlight=z06+brakes

and as far as the rear drum to disc conversion heres a direct copy and paste from wallflower from gagt.com

*** All numbers are based on 99 SE2 V6 ***

Main Hub Assemby :
18041757 : Backing plate LH : QTY 1
18041758 : Backing Plate RH : QTY 1
18023050 : Hub bolts : QTY 8
18060632 : Knuckle LH : QTY 1
18060633 : Knuckle RH : QTY 1
18026272 : Caliper Brkt : QTY 2
18023069 : Caliper Brkt Bolts : QTY 4
18022952 : Park Brake Spring : QTY 2
11513699 : Park Brkt Screw : QTY 4
18025022 : Park Brkt LH : QTY 1
18025023 : Park Brkt RH : QTY 1
18043106 : Park Actuator LH : QTY 1
18043107 : Park Actuator RH : QTY 1

Raybestos Misc. Parts :
RC11081 : Loaded Rear Caliper LH : QTY 1
RC11082 : Loaded Rear Caliper RH : QTY 1
56629 : Rear Disc : QTY 2
770 : Park Brake Shoes : QTY 1
BH380580 : Rear Brake Line : QTY 2

BCA Hub Assembly :
512152 : Rear Hub Assembly : QTY 2


Simple swap instructions :
1. Disconnect Brake Line
2. Disconnect E-Brake Cable
3. Remove 2 Strut/Knuckle bolts
4. Remove Trailing Arm/Knuckle bolt
5. Remove Lateral Arm/Knuckle bolt
6. Remove Sway Bar/Knuckle bolt

You now have the entire rear drum assembly in your hands. Change rear brake lines and E-brake cable. Replace with GT Hub Assembly in reverse order.


** I have the exploded views and parts lists from the GM Parts computer, for both the drum and disc rear assemblies, however I do not have a scanner. The only part number I do not know is for the E-brake cables.

I would check the local junkyard (Yard locator - http://www.car-part.com/) and see if they have wrecked GTs on the lot. Your price would almost certainly beat what you will pay at the dealer level for the above parts. I was quoted $250 for two complete disc hub assemblies. I plan to do this very soon myself. I think I will replace the calipers and park actuators with new parts to avoid the potential problems. I intend to buy new cables, hoses, and obviously the pads and rotors.

[97cutlas$upreme]

for sway bars stop by a salvage yart pick one up off a lets say 94 gp special edition or just any older wbody... they have the thickest ones available measuring at 34mm when other have 29mm 30mm and 32mm and for bushings go to autozone and pic up some energy suspesion sway bar bushings

swaybar dealer..190$
swaybar salvage..15$
bushings..10$

[blackbombshell95]

Suspension

1. Front Springs - 1995 Monte Carlo Suspension Technique #81ZX0113T www.JCwhitney.com discontinued -
2. Front CoilOvers - www.heldmotorsports.com
3. Front Struts - Front Strut Mounts www.truckperformance.com - Front boots www.truckperformance.com - Front KYB Struts www.truckperformance.com -
4. Front STB - Buick Strut Bar www.GMpartsdirect.com - 93-95 Oldsmobile Cutlass Convertible factory Strut bar junkyard only - ZZP Strut Brace Mounts www.ZZPerformance.com
5. Front Swaybar - FE3 bar if you don't have the B4U option Junkyard or any GM dealership #26024362
6. Front Poly Bushings - FE3 Front Stock Swaybar Bushings: (www.schucks.com) Inners: 95173G X 1 (34mm) Outers: 95159G X 1 (23mm)
7. Rear LeafSpring - Birchmount Auto Spring Company 458 Birchmount Road Scarborough, ON M1K1M6 Telephone: (416) 698-3636
Fax: (416) 698-5732 - Flex-a-Form www.flex-a-form.com -
8. Rear CoilOvers - www.fastfwdperformance.com
9. Rear Shocks - Rear Strut mounts www.truckperformance.com - Rear boots www.truckperformance.com - Rear KYBstruts www.truckperformance.com -
10. Rear STB - Clubgp member AWeb80 Strut bar
11. Rear Swaybar - Addco call to get the updated bar 1-800-719-8100 www.truckperformance.com -
12. Rear Poly Bushings - Moog Mono-Leaf Spring Pads
#K6544 - FE3 Rear Stock Swaybar Bushings: Outers (3100's) 95151G (11mm greasable/ note: Bar size is actually 12mm and there are no 12mm bushings) Outers (3.4 dohc) 95153G (14mm greasable) Inners (unknown at the moment) - Addco Rear swaybar: Outers: 95158G X1 (22mm) gmpartsdirect.com Inners: 10270253 X2 (22mm) (use factory inner brackets)
13. Trailing Arms - 97+ GMPP Trailing Arms www.GMpartsdirect.com #12498649 - 97+ www.bmrfabrication.com
14. Rear Lateral Arms - 97+ www.BMRfabrication.com
15. Forward Lateral Arms - 97+ www.BMRfabrication.com
16. Rear Suspension swap - 95-99 Monte Carlo/94+ Lumina Complete Rear End Swap is a direct bolt on with some drilling to the towers.
17. Front Wheel Bearings - Timken front wheel bearing uses 3/8" longer studs (safer for wheel spacers) ~$90 at autozone

The energy suspension bushings come with new brackets and are greasable. Always use grease on the inside of polyurethane bushings. The only modification that needs to be done is to enlarge the holes on the rear bushing brackets. These energy suspension bushings will correct the slop in the addco bar if you are using the addco poly bushings.

[PCGUY112887]

Anyone know the inner/outer bushing size for a FE1 front bar in a 96 sedan?

[dohcfiend]

sweet tijuana. sorry i missed you. did u at least see my car there. green gtp near the front. i was parked next to a white saleen and a severly riced orange 240 i believe(damn it i knew i should have gotten your cell). but ya. you remove the monoleaf with the rear coilover kit install which in essene makes the wbod an independant rear suspension then.

[dohcfiend]

Update: i am currently working with a vendor and in the coming weeks i should be testing a set of lateral and trailing arms. he says they will be in both stock length and adjustable length for toe(i am getting stock length btw).

i have noted there are already some avaliable but i think the more wbody parts out there the better. kind of a contingency if one vendor goes belly up or something. if the results are good and maybe he sells a few units, perhaps i can talk him into some other suspension parts that are not available.

[AWeb80]

Check my sig.

[97cutlas$upreme]

ne body know if the rear trailing arms of a 97+ gp will fit my 97 cutlass supreme?

[AWeb80]

yes...i've got the GMPP TA's on my gp.

[5speedz34]

All of BMR's suspension stuff will fit the first gens. It's made for the second gens.