FWD/RWD Need help ASAP

[TurboGt]

I have been doing some research on this and hope someone can help me out.

Long story short I have a 87 Fiero and will be swaping a 3400 into it some time soon. Once I swap that in the motor out of the fiero it will be just laying around. I would like to through the motor into a spare 82 s10 blazer I have sitting around. The blazer has a carbed 2.8, and the motor is locked up, it also has the manual 5 speed trans. I want to swap the fuel injection, ecu, ect. over to the blazer.
I want to do this cheep, meaning I dont want to rebuild the enging that is in the blazer right now. Eventually I might think of puting a 3400 in it if this will work.

I was reading this thread

http://www.60degreev6.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=5486&highlight=fwd+rwd

An see that some bellhousing's will allow me to do this.

I found this on ebay and it ends soon

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92-Camaro-Trans-Am-S10-2-8-T5-Bellhousing-5-Speed_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33654QQitemZ8012925849QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Will this bellhousing work for what I want to do?

Thanks for your help
Marq

[WhiteRaider]

You should be fine with your existing setup. The 2.8 from your Blazer and the 2.8 from your fiero have the same bolt pattern. The engine should just bolt the the tranny.

The flywheel from your Blazer may not work though. I'm not sure the year that the engines became internally balanced. The flexplate on the 82 is externally balanced for sure. This is something to check out. If the Fiero engine is internally balanced, you'd just need to get the flexplate balanced or buy one that's balanced.

[TurboGt]

The blazer is a 4x4. Thought I put that in the first post.
Dose this change anything?

[WhiteRaider]

No. If it's a 2.8l engine, the engine bolt pattern is the same as the Fiero. You won't need a new bellhousing.

[TurboGt]

That's good news. Thanks again for your help.

[sharkey]

the biggest issue here- motor mounts. the fwd block (the fiero is) and rwd block use different motor mount lugs on the left back of the motor. you would either need to swap blocks (you still would have to use the 82 crank though, pre 86 is small journal, or get an 86+ block) or fab a custom mount.

the flywheel issue isnt that big. 87 was the changeover year to internal balance. basicly if you have a weight on your fiero flywheel, you can use your trucks flywheel no changes. if it doesnt have the weight, either get a neutral balanced flywheel, or nock the weight off the flywheel you have.

[Guest]

As stated the balancing is not an issue.

The left engine mount (Longitudily mounted) will need to be custom, and some modification of either the S-10 bellhousing or the Fiero block will need to be made for the starter location, they are on opposite sides of the block. Also the lower right bolt will not thread into the block, as the transverse mounted set-up threads into the tranny in this location.

[TurboGt]

some modification of either the S-10 bellhousing or the Fiero block will need to be made for the starter location, they are on opposite sides of the block. Also the lower right bolt will not thread into the block, as the transverse mounted set-up threads into the tranny in this location

If I got the bellhousing from ebay (off a 82-92 trans am)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92-Camaro-Trans-Am-S10-2-8-T5-Bellhousing-5-Speed_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33654QQitemZ8012925849QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

would I still run into this problem?

Or could I redrill the block on the other side for the starter, and drill out the threaded right lower bolt hole on the bellhousing ?

[Guest]

some modification of either the S-10 bellhousing or the Fiero block will need to be made for the starter location, they are on opposite sides of the block. Also the lower right bolt will not thread into the block, as the transverse mounted set-up threads into the tranny in this location

If I got the bellhousing from ebay (off a 82-92 trans am)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92-Camaro-Trans-Am-S10-2-8-T5-Bellhousing-5-Speed_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33654QQitemZ8012925849QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

would I still run into this problem?

Or could I redrill the block on the other side for the starter, and drill out the threaded right lower bolt hole on the bellhousing ?

Yes, all longitudily mounted 660s use the passenger side starter, except the Isuzu Trooper, but I am not sure of thier compatibility in trans/transfer cases to a Blazer. So you will have issues with the starter, you'll probably find that the bell housing you just bought is the same as the one you are pulling out. It was a one year only deal for the dual pocket bellhousing, AFAIK, and it was about '83 or '84. I have yet to hear of anyone using the dual pocket bellhousing.

Now there is something else to look into, either using a late model 2.2 S-10 bellhousing, but you may need to use the entire tranny at which point that wouldn't work, due to the lack of 2.2 4x4 option.
OR
Find out what KillerB uses for thier conversions. They use a Ford tranny and some bellhousing, that may be a custom cast piece for use with the GM 660. IIRC www.killerb.net

The lower bellhousing bolt doesn't need to be drilled out, you'll need to use a long bolt and nut, since both the engine block and tranny will have no threads.

[WhiteRaider]

Some people just swap out their starter for a mini starter. This allows you to use a bellhousing without the pocket on that side. Depending on the bellhousing, you may have to grind a little material off of the inside.

[TurboGt]

I didnt end up buying that bellhousing.
Thanks for your fast response and help.

Marq

[Guest]

Some people just swap out their starter for a mini starter. This allows you to use a bellhousing without the pocket on that side. Depending on the bellhousing, you may have to grind a little material off of the inside.

Say what? No matter how you slice it, the bellhousing gets in the way, the only mini part of the starter is the body, not the nose where it engages the flywheel, that part is still the same dimentions, with either starter.

[Guest]

I didnt end up buying that bellhousing.
Thanks for your fast response and help.

Marq

No Problem.

[WhiteRaider]

Say what? No matter how you slice it, the bellhousing gets in the way, the only mini part of the starter is the body, not the nose where it engages the flywheel, that part is still the same dimentions, with either starter.

No man, I'm not BSing you. You just have to buy a starter without a nose like this one. As you can see, you don't need a starter pocket. Depending on the bellhousing, you may need to grind some metal off of the inside, but you won't need a full pocket.



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[Guest]

Say what? No matter how you slice it, the bellhousing gets in the way, the only mini part of the starter is the body, not the nose where it engages the flywheel, that part is still the same dimentions, with either starter.

No man, I'm not BSing you. You just have to buy a starter without a nose like this one. As you can see, you don't need a starter pocket. Depending on the bellhousing, you may need to grind some metal off of the inside, but you won't need a full pocket.



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Go ahead, try that. The bellhousing will still need modification for clearance of the gear.