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  • RWD Conversion Starter/Flywheel/Clutch options

    Hey guys, I've got a FWD block with the RWD T5 trans from a 2.2L S10 (starter on the left). I'm putting them into an Opel Kadett with a transverse leaf front suspension, so my subframe/crossmember modifications are limited. Based on some comments over at the OpelGT.com forum, I think I'm going to have clearance issues with the starter and the subframe crossmember/spring.

    I have an Isuzu Trooper flywheel and pressure plate (I have lots of Trooper parts) with an S10 clutch plate. I think the S10 may have used a hydraulic throwout bearing, hopefully that all works together... Open to suggestions.

    Since I have the Trooper flywheel, I also have a Trooper starter (which is large). Someone suggested a later model FWD gear-reduction starter that would be more compact and provide better clearance to the crossmember, but I don't know what might work with the Trooper flywheel, or what flywheel/pressure plate combination will work with what I'm trying to do. Suggestions?
    '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
    '96 LR Range Rover 4.6 HSE - suspiciously reliable
    '92 Volvo 740 Wagon - former parts car, now daily-driver beater
    '71 Opel Kadett Wagon - 1.9L CIH w/ Weber DGV 32/36, in bits

  • #2
    Since you will be using the FWD starter location, you will have to use a FWD flywheel, they are smaller in diameter than the RWD variants. You may be able to use the Trooper flywheel, since it uses the FWD starter location, but I am unsure if the Trooper starter is any different, than the FWD starter in pinion position that would have an effect on which diameter flywheel was used. Check this before bolting everything in, in case you need to swap to the smaller FWD starter for chassis clearance. I would go to the smaller starter anyway, they are quite a bit lighter and work well.

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    • #3
      I think I'm actually all good on this. I checked and the Trooper used the same flywheel and starter at the 2.2L S10, and I put a regular Trooper starter on a junk engine in my shop and I don't see how it would interfere with the crossmember... So, nevermind I guess.
      '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
      '96 LR Range Rover 4.6 HSE - suspiciously reliable
      '92 Volvo 740 Wagon - former parts car, now daily-driver beater
      '71 Opel Kadett Wagon - 1.9L CIH w/ Weber DGV 32/36, in bits

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      • #4
        It actually is possible to use a RWD flywheel with the FWD starter/location. Just make a 9/16" shim and it works perfect. That's what I use on my car.
        '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
        '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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        • #5
          What car should I reference to get the ideal starter?
          '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
          '96 LR Range Rover 4.6 HSE - suspiciously reliable
          '92 Volvo 740 Wagon - former parts car, now daily-driver beater
          '71 Opel Kadett Wagon - 1.9L CIH w/ Weber DGV 32/36, in bits

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          • #6
            Probably something like a 2002 Chevy Venture should work.
            '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
            '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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            • #7
              anything with a 3100/3400/3500... the newer the better.
              Past Builds;
              1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
              1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
              Current Project;
              1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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              • #8
                I used a 2.2L S-10 flex plate and a stock 3400 starter without the need for any spacers on my build but also used a 700R4, do not know if the spacing is the same on the manual trans setups

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dskopek View Post
                  I used a 2.2L S-10 flex plate and a stock 3400 starter without the need for any spacers on my build but also used a 700R4, do not know if the spacing is the same on the manual trans setups
                  2.2s use the FWD starter location already, so they have a FWD-diameter flex plate/flywheel. If it were a 2.8 S-10 flex plate it would probably be different.

                  Basically if you're using a flywheel for a passenger's side starter, but with a driver's side starter, you can use a 9/16" spacer to drive it properly with a FWD starter.
                  '89 Firebird, 3500 Turbo, T56, 9-bolt/4.11
                  '86 Fiero, 3500, 4-speed

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                  • #10
                    Earlier I said that I thought my trans used a hydraulic throwout bearing. That is not the case, I think that was the newer model S10 I was looking at. Mine came from a 94-95 (I forget why I had to pull from those specific years) and it uses an external clutch slave and release arm.
                    '98 Volvo V90 - Ford 5.0 swap in progress
                    '96 LR Range Rover 4.6 HSE - suspiciously reliable
                    '92 Volvo 740 Wagon - former parts car, now daily-driver beater
                    '71 Opel Kadett Wagon - 1.9L CIH w/ Weber DGV 32/36, in bits

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                    • #11
                      I would consider that a bonus unless real estate under the car is at a premium.

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                      -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
                      91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
                      92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
                      94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
                      Originally posted by Jay Leno
                      Tires are cheap clutches...

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