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    I admit i dont know a hole lot about cams, I know there purpose and how they work and what most of the specs mean but when it comes down to how those specs affect a motor, i'm lost.

    I'm building a 2.8 with a 3400 top end with minor port work, just gasket matching and I'm running turbo all this bolted to a getrag 282.

    What kind of specs am I looking for? From what i understand turbo's dont like a lot of over lap, over lap is ok just not excessive like a lot of the bigger cams.

    I'm not looking for anything extreme, just a nice improvement over stock. this is mostly a daily driver but I do a lot of autoX and hit the drag strip a few times a year.

    also if anyone had any links to sites selling cams that would help out to.

    I've heard alot of good things about the H260, but hows it for boost?

    thanks
    Mr_Efficiency

    90 Grand prix - Lawn ornament
    Black, 3.1, 5 speed
    Future holds: Striped and then scrap yard

    97 Cavalier - Stock car
    Red/Black, 2.2 OHV, 5 speed, fully tubed bumper to bumper, 6 point cage with halo, fuel cell, race seat, 5 pt harness.... a race car
    Future holds: Just more trophies

    New project on the way: 88 S10 reg cab, short box, 5 speed.
    Future holds: Built 2.8 hybrid, Stealthy flat black, a drop until i have no more ugly wheel gap

  • #2
    the crane H260-2 is a great cam for boost, lots of people are running it with good results.


    Since you are using a Gen2 bottom end your cam choices are somewhat limited, you could always get a regrind of a new stock one, you'll probably end up needing longer pushrods depending on the lift you want.

    Here is a great guide for gen2 cams: http://members.shaw.ca/betterthanyou...haft_guide.htm
    Past Builds;
    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
    Current Project;
    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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    • #3
      Limited? There are a lot more cams for the Gen I and II motors than there are for gen III. You can get Comp or Crane to make you a custom one if you wish.
      1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
      1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
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      • #4
        Originally posted by betterthanyou View Post
        Limited? There are a lot more cams for the Gen I and II motors than there are for gen III. You can get Comp or Crane to make you a custom one if you wish.
        Um.. have you checked the store here lately?



        Sure they're re-grinds but the end result is the same...
        Past Builds;
        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
        Current Project;
        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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        • #5
          awesome, thanks for the link superdave, thats just the kind of thing i was looking for.
          Mr_Efficiency

          90 Grand prix - Lawn ornament
          Black, 3.1, 5 speed
          Future holds: Striped and then scrap yard

          97 Cavalier - Stock car
          Red/Black, 2.2 OHV, 5 speed, fully tubed bumper to bumper, 6 point cage with halo, fuel cell, race seat, 5 pt harness.... a race car
          Future holds: Just more trophies

          New project on the way: 88 S10 reg cab, short box, 5 speed.
          Future holds: Built 2.8 hybrid, Stealthy flat black, a drop until i have no more ugly wheel gap

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          • #6
            Just out of curiosity, can i use a gen 3 roller cam in my 2.8 block if i used the correct lifters as well? then would this allow me to run the 1.6 roller rockers with stock length pushrods?

            cause if not i was going to run 1.6 lifters from a 95-96 3100 cause there not roller and I can use my stock length 2.8 pushrods.

            I know there not the best but its the cheapest and for the 1-2hp it gains me i dont feel like the headache of custom pushrods.
            Mr_Efficiency

            90 Grand prix - Lawn ornament
            Black, 3.1, 5 speed
            Future holds: Striped and then scrap yard

            97 Cavalier - Stock car
            Red/Black, 2.2 OHV, 5 speed, fully tubed bumper to bumper, 6 point cage with halo, fuel cell, race seat, 5 pt harness.... a race car
            Future holds: Just more trophies

            New project on the way: 88 S10 reg cab, short box, 5 speed.
            Future holds: Built 2.8 hybrid, Stealthy flat black, a drop until i have no more ugly wheel gap

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            • #7
              Not without some decent modifications... Since the cam is a roller cam, it requires roller lifters. And the roller lifters require an anti-rotation bar, which the 2.8 block doesn't have provisions for.
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              • #8
                ok i dont know what that is but it sounds like more work than i want to get into for this build. I'm used to OHC motors so all this pushrod stuff just throws me through a loop.

                flat tappet cam it is then.

                If i get an aftermarket cam like the H260-2 that everyone seems to recomend, can i still use my stock length pushrods? I'll be useing 95-95 non roller 1.6 rockers like i said above.
                Mr_Efficiency

                90 Grand prix - Lawn ornament
                Black, 3.1, 5 speed
                Future holds: Striped and then scrap yard

                97 Cavalier - Stock car
                Red/Black, 2.2 OHV, 5 speed, fully tubed bumper to bumper, 6 point cage with halo, fuel cell, race seat, 5 pt harness.... a race car
                Future holds: Just more trophies

                New project on the way: 88 S10 reg cab, short box, 5 speed.
                Future holds: Built 2.8 hybrid, Stealthy flat black, a drop until i have no more ugly wheel gap

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bszopi View Post
                  Not without some decent modifications... Since the cam is a roller cam, it requires roller lifters. And the roller lifters require an anti-rotation bar, which the 2.8 block doesn't have provisions for.
                  Has anyone ever looked into what it would take to modify the gen1/2 block to accept the anti-rotation bars or gen3 guides?

                  The gen3 ones are just plastic, it seems like it would be easy enough to either weld in some little mounts or maybe if there is enough area drill/tap the block and run a longer bolt with a litlte collar that the guide can slide over...

                  Maybe this spring i'll look around for a gen2 block to check this out on, seems like it could help out alot of people...
                  Past Builds;
                  1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                  1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                  Current Project;
                  1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                  • #10
                    I think you can use rods from a 2.8L or 3.1L FWD Gen II motor. Should be close enough if your using adjustable rockers.
                    1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
                    1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
                    Because... I am, CANADIAN

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