96-97 ECM swap FAIL

[3400-95-Modified]

Well to add to all of that, if you don't have the compression to necessitate 93 octane then the tune for it is useless... The only thing you'll gain over a higher octane is being able to run more timing, and you can already run these engines at a very high advance with stock compression running 87 or 89. I've been able to run 28+ degrees with 87 in my car and that is 9.15:1 compression, Stock 3400 is only 9.5:1

Now if your were boosted I can understand the octane requirement, and or tune level. They will do that with boosted cars, and once again it simply means there is a bit less timing in the 91vs93 tunes, and quite possibly a little leaner too since with the timing drop you wont need it to be so rich to prevent detonation.

[payback]

honestly...i just want to get more familiar with the DHP unit, i dont have too much longer before im going to need a full custom tune, so...i better get crackin. its not necessary to tune it in for higher octane, it is available here in NY abundantly though.
i have the guide, and it has great info and all but..i hate how it seems to be geared toward that damn dinoL67...it just makes things more confusing. they really should have used an n/a motor as a base. dont really know where to start lol.

[3400-95-Modified]

Everything pretty much still applies, just ignore anything they say about boost, or any boost settings they change. You still should do a VE tune and try to stay away from WOT during it, and then after thats done move on to the MAF tune. The VE tune you will see can make the car run much better at idle with the more agressive the motor gets. Mine was a bear to idle before with my cam, but now since I've done a decent VE tune its gotten much better.

Also for NA there is no need to use 93, abundant or not. Its at every station in CT, but I still put 87 in there if I'm not running at the strip. Also as noted in a N/A application it will gain you nothing if you have no KR... They speak of 93 tunes a lot in the guides due to them all being boosted, and mostly its referring to just a bit of extra timing to take advantage of the knock reduction characteristics of the 93.

[payback]

Everything pretty much still applies, just ignore anything they say about boost, or any boost settings they change. You still should do a VE tune and try to stay away from WOT during it, and then after thats done move on to the MAF tune. The VE tune you will see can make the car run much better at idle with the more agressive the motor gets. Mine was a bear to idle before with my cam, but now since I've done a decent VE tune its gotten much better.

Also for NA there is no need to use 93, abundant or not. Its at every station in CT, but I still put 87 in there if I'm not running at the strip. Also as noted in a N/A application it will gain you nothing if you have no KR... They speak of 93 tunes a lot in the guides due to them all being boosted, and mostly its referring to just a bit of extra timing to take advantage of the knock reduction characteristics of the 93.

yeah youre right, the car runs amazingly well as it is and any gains would be too small to warrent it. so i'll just leave it alone until the new motor goes in, then ill have to tune it for the cam.. gotta bite the bullet&do the build myself. thanks for all the help much, much appreciated!