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    tryin g to hack away at a 3500 04 malibu file, I think I have found the VE table, but not sure.

    This look like it might be the VE?

    As of April 2
    3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
    ----------------------------
    Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
    Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
    Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
    Injectors: #36 GTPs
    TB: 65mm TCE
    Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
    Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
    Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
    Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

  • #2
    140kpa is like 6 PSI of boost if i'm not mistaken....

    i think you have 2 or more tables combined, look how the VE% drops off between 80 and 90, and below that the numbers seem all on the high side.
    Past Builds;
    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
    Current Project;
    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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    • #3
      I inserted the numbers into a table, I think 140kpa is standard ve table for OBD2?
      Ya, but I am not sure on the numbers, they just dont look right.
      As a compare, here is a stock 04 3400 Ve table
      As of April 2
      3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
      ----------------------------
      Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
      Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
      Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
      Injectors: #36 GTPs
      TB: 65mm TCE
      Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
      Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
      Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
      Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

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      • #4
        an most def the numbers are way off, specially in the 90 to 100 kpa range.

        I will keep at it every once in a while lol.
        Hoping to learn to add vehicles to Tiny Tuner db, that and find where the DTCs are!
        As of April 2
        3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
        ----------------------------
        Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
        Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
        Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
        Injectors: #36 GTPs
        TB: 65mm TCE
        Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
        Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
        Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
        Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

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        • #5
          With some help I am making some headway.



          looks much better?
          As of April 2
          3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
          ----------------------------
          Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
          Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
          Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
          Injectors: #36 GTPs
          TB: 65mm TCE
          Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
          Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
          Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
          Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

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          • #6
            I think someone has already done this because I have 3500 VE and MAF tables already.

            And yes the 3500 VE goes up to 140kPa

            And yes that is the VE that you have posted.

            They hacked the file and made it have a 3.8L OSID and most of the tables match up, so if you need something from it I can export it from DHP or Tiny Tuner.
            Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 05-21-2010, 11:54 AM.

            Got Lope?
            3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
            Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
            Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
            12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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            • #7
              I am more learning how to Add new Tables Maps and Osids etc

              I now have (I believe) the whole and correct Map and tables for the 04 Mali 3500 and is now included in my Tiny Tuners DB along with disabling DTCs.

              I believe we should see a goody for DHP to also allow us to add osids/cals and New vehicles

              Things ARE looking GOOD!
              As of April 2
              3rd Gen Cavy has 3500 Installed!
              ----------------------------
              Engine: 2006 SV6 3500 LX9
              Trans: 2002 Getrag F23 5speed
              Pcm: 2001 Impala La1 3400 with complete Engine Harness.
              Injectors: #36 GTPs
              TB: 65mm TCE
              Maf: 1999 3400 Montana.
              Adjustable TCE Fuel pressure Regulator
              Walbro W1 255 pump from Racetronix.
              Beverages: Ice Cold CANADIAN.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                And yes the 3500 VE goes up to 140kPa
                GM code engineers, WTF?
                1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                Latest nAst1 files here!
                Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                • #9
                  boost them all!
                  Past Builds;
                  1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                  1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                  Current Project;
                  1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                    boost them all!
                    while i have NO issues with that ideology, are there any 1.5BAR MAP sensors out there? if so, the PCM would still need to know it and then scale everything accordingly.

                    if there aren't and there is only 1,2 and higher, WTF is the point of going up to ~1.5BAR? the 1BAR can't read it and a 2BAR should read to ~210kPa... so why 140?

                    was the LSD making rounds that day? or did someone not scale the VE tables correctly when they hacked through it? if you had a testbench, it would be easy enough to determine, but i find it more likely that the 4 extra entries in that table are actually 25,35,45,55 kPa. above 100 just doesn't make sense in a program that can only see up to 100...
                    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                    Latest nAst1 files here!
                    Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
                      while i have NO issues with that ideology, are there any 1.5BAR MAP sensors out there? if so, the PCM would still need to know it and then scale everything accordingly.

                      if there aren't and there is only 1,2 and higher, WTF is the point of going up to ~1.5BAR? the 1BAR can't read it and a 2BAR should read to ~210kPa... so why 140?

                      was the LSD making rounds that day? or did someone not scale the VE tables correctly when they hacked through it? if you had a testbench, it would be easy enough to determine, but i find it more likely that the 4 extra entries in that table are actually 25,35,45,55 kPa. above 100 just doesn't make sense in a program that can only see up to 100...
                      I agree...

                      I'd think that the 25,35,45 and 55 would be there to increase the VE resolution, $A1 is like that...
                      Attached Files
                      Past Builds;
                      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                      Current Project;
                      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                      • #12
                        more or less, exactly what i was thinking...
                        1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                        Latest nAst1 files here!
                        Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                        • #13
                          Can you post the findings here, link not working.
                          88 Beretta GTU turbo . 90 Black ASC/McLaren TGP, awaiting 4t80. 2003 Grand AM se 3400/4t45 daily grind.

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                          • #14
                            2006 lx9 3500

                            I have been following (sort of) this thread with interest and wouild like to ask about ltft tables. Any info you can share?

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