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  • It is not easy to tune because you have to figure the base value plus each section of the maf table. Get rid of the base and make each segment its own. Even better (not possible), make it 1 table. haha, i wish! Making the MAF work easily on A1 is going to be a PITA. you can make it work I am sure but if its hard to tune, not many of us will bother vs 3 bar MAP.
    Ben
    60DegreeV6.com
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    • i've improved the 2E XDF since you've last seen it Ben.

      a lot the displaying/changing has now been automated and takes into account the scalar, offset and table value to display into a single table. if you can't adjust a certain frequency table to a high or low enough range, then the scalar or offset would need to be deal with.

      and it is entirely possible to make them all into 1 table. however, going that route would require every entry to be a 16 bit value, which takes up a LOT more space than the way it's setup now.

      and it SHOULD be easy to get MAF working the way i want, since every time a speed-density BPW value would be generated, an option bit and qualifications would be looked at to see if a MAF based BPW value should be used instead.

      also, using the MAF, i can make an interesting "auto-VE" feature in the ADX to basically build the VE tables by driving around with only MAF enabled. should cut down on initial guesses considerably.
      1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
      Latest nAst1 files here!
      Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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      • going back to trac control, using launch mode(from 8D saujp) could work until a suitable abs controller is built?
        '86 Grand National

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        • launch mode is already present in A1. if you play with the bias value, you can generate a negative spark advance modification to cut torque momentarily.
          1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
          Latest nAst1 files here!
          Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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          • Ben, has more questions to fgure out TP quirks:

            There’s not quite enough info in the video. What version of TP? What is TunerPro’s install location, and what is the complete path to which he’s attempting to save (move) the log file?
            1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
            Latest nAst1 files here!
            Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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            • 5.00.7431.000.00.0.00.000, program files 32 bit folder, default for Windows 7 install. Complete path on my drive that I am trying to save to? D:\car stuff\NAST1\Cavalier Wagon of Doom\
              Ben
              60DegreeV6.com
              WOT-Tech.com

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              • I tried the single fire up to 4ms, and its ok until you cruise around right on the 4ms point and then it stumbles and shakes as it goes back and forth between them. It actually stalled on my once as well. So I am done with that. The instant MPG was up 7% at idle too, so i don't see it helping with fuel economy.
                Ben
                60DegreeV6.com
                WOT-Tech.com

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                • i can tell you right now you're running on a few versions outdated version of TP V5. 7686 is the latest version.

                  like i said, i could never get the transition to work right, so AFAIK, the only way to reliably run single-fire right now is to run injectors twice as large as necessary and you won't run into the software/hardware imposed 50% duty cycle. i'll need to work with the Async register to be able to get it to function as desired.
                  1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                  Latest nAst1 files here!
                  Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                  • Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
                    well, if you have your $DF tune and a decent XDF handy, compare the DF tune to the basis tune using one instance of tunerpro, then open another instance with the yet-to-be-released $A1 3.4 BIN and then copy the differences you see into the A1 tune, then you have your DF tune in A1 format.
                    So I updated TP on my desktop and laptop, did a direct read from a stock BCFA chip and my chip. My burner program will find differences in the chips, but I cannot get TP to find anything no matter how I go about attacking it on either pc. I guess it's about time to take a step back and go shoot someone (Call of Duty: Black Ops can relieve stress, or create it in certain circumstances, lol).
                    -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
                    91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
                    92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
                    94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
                    Originally posted by Jay Leno
                    Tires are cheap clutches...

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                    • careful, the DF XDF hosted here DOES have some significant errors in it. i found this out when i was porting the LQ1 stuff.

                      also, Ben, update your version of TP, Mark says he fixed that specific issue with the latest release.
                      1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                      Latest nAst1 files here!
                      Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                      • Ok, if the one hosted here has errors, I don't believe I have a good one then :/ Oh well, it was too hot to mess around in the garage today anyways.
                        -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
                        91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
                        92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
                        94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
                        Originally posted by Jay Leno
                        Tires are cheap clutches...

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                        • this one may not be perfect, but it does have a lot of issues and conversions corrected.
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                          1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                          Latest nAst1 files here!
                          Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                          • Robert, you are the man Now after you get the two step, no lift shift and 3 bar MAP going, you will be rocketed into hero status in my book

                            EDIT:

                            I tried it again, no luck. No matter if I load the .xdf, then my modded bin, then load stock into compare 1 and check it, or load stock in 1 and my modded in 2 and check them both, nothing yields difference result.
                            Last edited by pocket-rocket; 07-18-2011, 09:12 PM.
                            -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
                            91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
                            92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
                            94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
                            Originally posted by Jay Leno
                            Tires are cheap clutches...

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                            • maybe you're running a stock BIN? open up the TP hex editor with either BIN open, make a note of the values in locations 0006 and 0007, compare to other BIN. those are the checksum bytes, if you have changed anything, there's a good chance the checksum bytes will be different.

                              also: hero = guy with way too much time on his hands to do anything else productive?
                              1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                              Latest nAst1 files here!
                              Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                              • I created 2 new histograms for INT low and INT mid, but seem to have an issue which is duplicated in the BLM. The first line of the mid range BLM and now INT are updating the first line when it is reading the Low areas. This makes the 2000 RPM list incorrect. I think it might be accurate once the RPMS are really above 2000 but it was 1500 RPM and showing 2k on the mid.
                                Ben
                                60DegreeV6.com
                                WOT-Tech.com

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