disable ccp in tunerpro ?

[sil]

is it just me or is there no ccp constant in tunerpro ?
ahh i miss gmpcm, to bad its author is a douchbag

DF.xdf

[moonwell]

"CCP Enable Coolant Temp Threshold" in the $A1

Where did you get a $DF? I don't see that on the tunerpro or moates sites?

Unfortunately there is a lot of stuff that gmpcm had for the $A1 that isn't in tunerpro.

[SappySE107]

Well we have the complete A1 and DF codes so its just a matter of someone entering more data into the .xdf file. Chris and I spent some time making what we have today so if someone else wants to add and share that would rule.

[sil]

i would love to add, if i knew how lol

tables would be mega hard to add but im sure constants would be easy
i jsut dont understand how to get the calulation values
example....

%%CONSTANT%%
	000002 UniqueID         =0x3E3C
	020005 Title            ="Number of Cylinders                     "
	020011 DescSize         =0x0
	020010 Desc             =""
	020020 Units            ="               "
	020100 Address          =0x9
	020200 Equation         =1.000000 * X + 0.000000,TH|0|0|0|0|
%%END%%

%%CONSTANT%%
	000002 UniqueID         =0x3E3D
	020005 Title            ="Initial Spark Advance                   "
	020011 DescSize         =0x0
	020010 Desc             =""
	020020 Units            ="Deg.           "
	020100 Address          =0x21
	020200 Equation         =0.351563 * X + 0.000000,TH|0|0|0|0|

sure i could go look at the df documentation and add all day but im stuck with the equation part lol

wheres ryan.hess when you need him, hes like a brainiack or sommin

Where did you get a $DF? I don't see that on the tunerpro or moates sites?

umm got it as a favour kinda from someone

hey ben, can you throw me the df file you have compiled ?

[SappySE107]

Yeah, i dunno what that TH crap is. We had fun with the equations but there wasn't anything like that. Everything I did was in wordpad copying and pasting other calculations and changing the address values and such. A lot of the equations are the same.

[sil]

lol ya i noticed that
i have a topic up at tunerpro.net forums, hopefully someone will respond as i would absolulty love a full mapping of the df

[SappySE107]

DF should be on teh site downloads.

http://60degreev6.com/local_links.php?catid=8

If you find something more complete please let me know.

[ryan.hess]

wheres ryan.hess when you need him, hes like a brainiack or sommin

Qué pasa?

Let me take a look...

Okay. Download the DF document. Scroll down to page 25. It says:

 03CC        A0    160 KCCPTMP         80 DEG C  DISABLE CCP IF COOLANT < THIS
 03CD        01      1 KCPVST1        0.3 MPH    ENABLE CCP IF MPH >= THIS (CCP OFF)
 03CE        0F     15 KCCPTPSU         6 %      ENABLE CCP IF TPS >= THIS (CCP OFF)
 03CF        0C     12 KCCPFLWH         3 GM/SEC ENABLE CCP IF FLOW > THIS (CCP OFF)
 03D0        00      0 KCPVST2          0 MPH    DISABLE CCP IF MPH < THIS (CCP ON)
 03D1        05      5 KCCPTPSL         2 %      DISABLE CCP IF TPS < THIS (CCP ON)

That top one there is what you want to change. Go into tunerpro. Open your xdf definition file. Click somewhere in the constants table. Right-click, and select "insert new XDF item". Select constant. In the title, type what you see above. "DISABLE CCP IF COOLANT < THIS" is fine. Units, type "Deg C". Address hex = "03CC" (from above). Size=8bit. The defaults for the rest are fine. Now click on the conversion tab. Edit the equation. Type X*0.5

This is needed because if you look above, the "raw" value is "A0" hex, or "160" in decimal. But on the side, it shows the value of 80 degrees C. So we need to take the "raw" values and divide them by two.

After that's done, click apply/okay. Save your XDF, open your binary, find the constant you just added, and see if it matches up. If it doesn't show "80 degrees C" then you know you did something wrong.

PS - to disable CCP, set it to the maximum value.
PPS - I think you were trying to edit the XDF file in notepad or something? Don't do that. You'll break it.

[sil]

pure gold, thank you superman

so if i wanted to go about setting up a table, what would be the best way to do so?
and flags, i know there is calculate function as air flow i want to disable as well but its not in there

thanks once again

[sil]

ok i found the flag i was talking about
calculate "bpw at idle" as function of airflow
this should be disable while tuning, correct?

 085F        44     68 KAFOPT1  %01000100 N      AIR FUEL OPTION FLAG WORD 1
                                                 BIT     DESCRIPTION
                                                 BIT0    1 = BPW MOD; 0 = A/F MOD SELECTED
                                                 BIT1    1 = CALCULATE EXECUTION TIME IN EACH BRANCH
                                                 BIT2    1 = CALCULATE 'BPW AT IDLE' AS FUNCTION OF AIRFLO
                                                 BIT3    1 = VATS ENABLED
                                                 BIT4    1 = NORMALLY OPEN FAN #2 REQUEST
                                                 BIT5    1 = MATDEG FOR F132 TABLE; 0 = INLETTMP
                                                 BIT6    1 = MULTIPLY DE DELTA MAP TERM BY NTRPM
                                                 BIT7    1 = MANUAL SHIFT LOGIC; 0 = AUTOMATIC TCC LOGIC

so to add the flag into tunerpro i would add this as title
CALCULATE 'BPW AT IDLE' AS FUNCTION OF AIRFLO
then use this as address 085F, then put it at bit 2, and save ?

and in tunerpro, it being "un-checked" means it is disabled, and wont use bpw at idle as funtion of airflow ?

[ryan.hess]

That sounds correct.

I think a check in the box means true. True = 1, so that would mean CALCULATE 'BPW AT IDLE' AS FUNCTION OF AIRFLO = True. So yes, you want it unchecked.

I've only done a table once or twice, so I'll have to look at it again, and get back to you.

[SappySE107]

Those flags should already be in the .ecu files for A1 and DF. They aren't labeled though so you could just go in there and label them if you want. Otherwise you have to look them up as you check/uncheck them. Yes, you want that unchecked even after tuning.

[sil]

cool, ya i had too add them, i searched for the address in the xdf before i added to make sure it wasnt already there
i added alot of stuff, but im still not sure about the tables so i wont add any for now

i am actually building apon the version that i have, becuase no offense or anything but i want to make sure that all the constans and flags and tables are correct, becuase you said you added some stuff, but you copy and pasted and you left some of the equations the same, so i would jsut rather be safe and have no other variables for falt

lol so you wont here my crying " why doesnt my car run" lol


well so far i have put in the new 02 sensor, new plugs, new knock sensor for a 3.1 grand prix (1993), so it matches my computer(dont know if thats a good idea, seeing as im using a 2.8 block/crank
just need to get some gas, and hook up my computer to get some logs, hopefully this time it goes into closed loop
if it dont... im gonna junk the car lol
well im gonna see if i can get some cash for gas and start it to see how it runs

thing that is bothering me though is that it allways seems to be low on antifreeze
maybe there is still lots of air in the system, i hope

well thanks for the help with tunerpro guys