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  • Originally posted by 90BlueZ View Post
    I just shipped mine back today. Marc gave me a bit of an update at the same time, I hope he don't mind me posting it here to keep people updated with progress

    "So far I have found two upper sprockets that are out of tolerance but .002" and the gear cutter said that really should not have an effect given the chain length and diameter of the sprocket. The funny thing is, the two Jon (3400modified) sent back were well within tolerance. The problem appears, at this point, to be the lack of oil grooves in the back of the sprocket causing the chain to run dry and wear prematurely. You can see heat marks (blue) on the back side of the one Jon had in his engine. This shows there was a lack of oil getting to the back side of the sprocket which also slings out on the chain."
    cool beans. thanks !
    Lifting my front wheels, one jack at a time.

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    • Originally posted by 90BlueZ View Post
      I just shipped mine back today. Marc gave me a bit of an update at the same time, I hope he don't mind me posting it here to keep people updated with progress

      "So far I have found two upper sprockets that are out of tolerance but .002" and the gear cutter said that really should not have an effect given the chain length and diameter of the sprocket. The funny thing is, the two Jon (3400modified) sent back were well within tolerance. The problem appears, at this point, to be the lack of oil grooves in the back of the sprocket causing the chain to run dry and wear prematurely. You can see heat marks (blue) on the back side of the one Jon had in his engine. This shows there was a lack of oil getting to the back side of the sprocket which also slings out on the chain."
      Sorry if that's what his gear cutter is going to say when the chain is walking out of the sprocket that's just not the whole story... One chain didn't fit and walked out 1 tooth, the other fit and only because it was badly stretched.

      SOMETHING is wrong, Maybe it's the chain at fault... I don't know, but it's not right. This was not caused by lack of lubrication I can guarantee that.

      If you take a bike sprocket and a chain and you wrap that chain fully around the sprocket, it fits... PERFECTLY... This chain did not fit into these sprockets it would center on one roller and then every other tooth after that it would begin to walk out of the teeth. If he is measuring to the profile of a Cloyes DRTC set for the 3.4 camaro and it's coming up right then he needs to measure the chain too and make sure those are the same profile.
      Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 09-09-2013, 03:47 PM.

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      Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
      Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
      12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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      • has anyone talked to him personally ? I don't have his number

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        • No, I have not.
          Lifting my front wheels, one jack at a time.

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          • I sent mine back 8/24/13 but have not heard anything. I've tried sending an email a few weeks back (9/10/13) but still have no response. Does anyone have an update on getting this issue resolved?

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            • We are coming up on 3 months from when I discovered this issue... I hope something is figured out soon...

              Got Lope?
              3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
              Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
              Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
              12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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              • Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                We are coming up on 3 months from when I discovered this issue... I hope something is figured out soon...
                Getting real close to building my next couple motors....
                Lifting my front wheels, one jack at a time.

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                • I sent an email Monday asking for updates and honestly don't expect a response, just kinda hoping.

                  Got Lope?
                  3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                  Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                  Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                  12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                  • I'm going to give the benefit of a doubt. Hope he's doin well.
                    Lifting my front wheels, one jack at a time.

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                    • I emailed him again asking for a response, I hope he's doing well, but at the same time, it doesn't take much effort to send a mass email.
                      "I am not what you so glibly call to be a civilized man. I have broken with society for reasons which I alone am able to appreciate. I am therefore not subject to it's stupid laws, and I ask you to never allude to them in my presence again."

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                      • My set is from the original batch, tce stamped, oil grooves, but no advace key ways are cut. For those that done know i got 20,000km on 2 chains, caught the ugly noise the first time, second time it was a knock and sounded like my tensioner was fucked, so maybe its partically my fault, but my top end needs to be replaced now
                        i'm having troubles getting a GM style chain from a 99-pre motor, according to the parts stores when i brought in a original gear set from a gm motor they told me its aftermarket and doesnt exsist. so i cant even get a melning chain set. guess i'll over night a GM Chain and slap this bitch together. hopefully for the last time.

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                        • I emailed Marc again, and still haven't heard back. I hope he's alright.
                          "I am not what you so glibly call to be a civilized man. I have broken with society for reasons which I alone am able to appreciate. I am therefore not subject to it's stupid laws, and I ask you to never allude to them in my presence again."

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                          • Originally posted by bob442 View Post
                            My set is from the original batch, tce stamped, oil grooves, but no advace key ways are cut. For those that done know i got 20,000km on 2 chains, caught the ugly noise the first time, second time it was a knock and sounded like my tensioner was fucked, so maybe its partically my fault, but my top end needs to be replaced now
                            i'm having troubles getting a GM style chain from a 99-pre motor, according to the parts stores when i brought in a original gear set from a gm motor they told me its aftermarket and doesnt exsist. so i cant even get a melning chain set. guess i'll over night a GM Chain and slap this bitch together. hopefully for the last time.
                            Find a new autoparts store... I'm using older OEM sprockets and I just picked up a 96 Beretta Chain from Advance Auto. SA Gear was the brand, I also grabbed an SA Gear dampener.

                            Summit has Melling, but I don't know if it's any good... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/me.../model/beretta
                            Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 10-17-2013, 09:19 AM.

                            Got Lope?
                            3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                            Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                            Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                            12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                            • I thought the sa gear was junk along with the rest of the aftermerket gears and chains for 94 - 99.

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                              • I know AutoZone sells the factory style chains as well. It's the Cloyes brand, even if boxed as Duralast, still Cloyes.

                                Good luck with the unfortunate repair...

                                1994 Chevy Beretta, cammed 3400 swap

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