My actions of posting this info was misinterpreted, so from here on out I'm just going to leave this subject alone.
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What the hell happened? I know you are not putting anyone down and so does everyone else. You did this to warn others.
Orangecky2k it has been said that the older sets with the TCE stamped on it are ok. So yes you should fear your new set until more info comes out.95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR
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Originally posted by Purple pit View PostI know you are not putting anyone down and so does everyone else.
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3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS
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Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View PostHence my misinterpreted statement, but I'm going to just step back from this rather than piss anyone off any further.95 Beretta 3100 with 3400 intakes and TCE TB
High flow cat and a Magnaflow muffler
Grand Prix trans with 3.33FDR
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Thanks for the information. I will continue to put off installing it until further information is out. Marc, just let us know what actions you want us to take with these once everything is figured out.
Thank you.You may or may not know 10 times what i do.
ASE Master certified. Just means I can take tests. GM ASEP Graduate.
95' Z26, ported/cammed 3400/3500, OBD2, 282, T3T4. Boxes almost all empty..
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Can you measure the bottom diameter of the cam sprocket?
Like this, obviously using the narrower portion of the calipers to get deeper into the cut.
Mine measured up at 4.525" and major overall DIA of the sprocket was 4.941"
I also have no clue as to how something that is a production run could vary but all it takes is one miss calculation on the gear cutting machine and the error will compound fast which will make the chain jump. This is why I hope Marc can prove he did everything right but the gear cutter messed up somewhere... And I would assume if that is true then the cost to replace these wouldn't come out of his pocket because it's not his fault.Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 07-17-2013, 02:41 PM.
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3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS
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Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View PostCan you measure the bottom diameter of the cam sprocket?
Mine measured up at 4.525" and major overall DIA of the sprocket was 4.941"
Before anything rash happens, everyone should just make sure the chain wraps completely around the gears and not skip like yours does. And yes, it only takes a small amount on a gear setup to eventually throw it off a lot.
Maybe it's .0000001" out of square, but by the time you get to the moon, it will be miles.
Gathering from all the info, Marc is not at fault, he simply provided the blanks and out sourced the gear hobbing and treating - except for the fact that the parts weren't double checked, but this is a second run, so the hobber should have already had all the tooling setup and these should have just been a repeat job.Last edited by ForcedFirebird; 07-17-2013, 04:04 PM.
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Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View PostGathering from all the info, Marc is not at fault, he simply provided the blanks and out sourced the gear hobbing and treating - except for the fact that the parts weren't double checked, but this is a second run, so the hobber should have already had all the tooling setup and these should have just been a repeat job.
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3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS
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Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View PostThat's what I've been thinking all along, and it was both of mine that were bad plus Geoff Morrow did the same check on his and they did the same thing. Really a bit odd.400whp 435wtq - MMS Race Block w/ 8.5:1 comp ratio, and Eagle H-beam rods. MMS Stage 2 package including Stage 2 3400 heads, Stage 2 Turbo Cam, chromemoly pushrods, and GM gaskets. MMS 65 mm Turbo Kit w 60lb/hr injectors, Walbro fuel pump, and powdercoated intake plumbing. MMS 3.29 4t65eHD conversion, 3500 stall TC. Milzy headers w/ downpipe, magnaflow exhaust, FFP Pulley, f/r strut braces, Msd 8.5 SC wires, Optima Battery, *** bodykit, Bilstein Coilovers. 17x8 AE 185s. Pioneer HU, B/A speakers.
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Well Marc got my packages on Monday so hopefully soon he can update us with what happened to these and if he feels that all the sprockets need to be replaced or not. I know everyone that has a set should send it back to him for checking/repair if you did not get his email that he sent.
Really weird that the original batch has different numbers yet the other one Forced has fits the chain...
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3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS
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Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View PostWell Marc got my packages on Monday so hopefully soon he can update us with what happened to these and if he feels that all the sprockets need to be replaced or not. I know everyone that has a set should send it back to him for checking/repair if you did not get his email that he sent.
Really weird that the original batch has different numbers yet the other one Forced has fits the chain...400whp 435wtq - MMS Race Block w/ 8.5:1 comp ratio, and Eagle H-beam rods. MMS Stage 2 package including Stage 2 3400 heads, Stage 2 Turbo Cam, chromemoly pushrods, and GM gaskets. MMS 65 mm Turbo Kit w 60lb/hr injectors, Walbro fuel pump, and powdercoated intake plumbing. MMS 3.29 4t65eHD conversion, 3500 stall TC. Milzy headers w/ downpipe, magnaflow exhaust, FFP Pulley, f/r strut braces, Msd 8.5 SC wires, Optima Battery, *** bodykit, Bilstein Coilovers. 17x8 AE 185s. Pioneer HU, B/A speakers.
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