Liquid Intercooler

[Manitcor]

Considering the limited amount of space there is to run turbo piping on a w-body without cutting into fenderwells and such I would like to consider other options.

One thing im thinking is a liquid intercooler. I could easily mount a small liquid cooler unit inside the drivers side fenderwell and mount the radiator right up front with the trans cooler and stock radiator. Im not sure what I would use as a pump yet (perhaps a standard universal electric pump). For coolant use the same setup many of the roots blower guys do which is a waterwetter/water mix.

This could gain me a couple things,

Shorter pipe routing to and from the intercooler
Easier to route thin water lines as opposed to 2"-3" air intake piping.
More of a stealth look.

Of corse the cons are
Added Weight
Addational strian on the electrical system for the pump
More complex system

Does anyone have any expiernece or thoughts about liquid intercoolers?

Can they be just as effective as air-to-air intercoolers when setup with the right size radiator and fluid combination?

[TurboGt]

I think it will work just fine. I had a water to air on my typhoon and it did a decent job keeping the air temps down. You can also add alchol injection after the intercooler to get even lower temps, and more power

The only con i know of is you can heat soak the system, from pro-longed amounts of boost.

[El_Diablo]

just get a trans rad and fan and run a closed loop system for the IC

[Manitcor]

yeah thats what I was thinking about doing, what would be a good pump for this kind of application? also are there formulas anywhere that I can use to figure out what the optimum flow rate of the coolant should be based upon the heat dissapation. I know if I pump to fast it will be ineffective as well as if it flows to slowly. From some of what ive read theres normall a 30% margin on either end of the scale. But i havent really found any formulas.

[TurboGt]

The guys on the syclone typhoon forum run a sureflow pump. If I can find out who sells them or a part # I will let you know

[Manitcor]

Seems alot of people like these pumps

http://www.autoperformanceengineerin...ml/jabsco.html, in particular the johnson CM30P7-1

ive seen alot of different heat exchangers but they all just seem like small radiators or trans coolers. I am to assume this is all they are or is there something different about the exhangers used for this application?

[nocutt]

This is only a suggestion as I have never ran a liq. IC before (however I know enough on both camps) if you have a dailiy driver I will suggest finding the space for an A2A. They don't have to be HUGEmongous cores, I have seen well designed cores much smaller than the 'ricey coolers'. I am talking with supported data...Although I am sure they become questionable when one starts to push the envelope...regardless if we are speaking on economy, NET performance the liq. ICs don't stand the chance for the street driven daily driver...period!!
If you spend or rather the vehicle in question spends more time on the track, I would say otherwise because there are cases of liq. IC's getting under ambient for the short duration on the drag strip...but that is few seconds...who cares
Do some more research, I obviously cannot dissuade you if you have made your mind...but IMO, street duties...A2W will not stand the test of time...