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  • Likkle Bitty Turbo

    What's a really small turbo that came stock on a car? I want to get started on a project, but I need to find a small junkyard turbo. It has to be from a pre-1996 car, and with any luck will be fairly common for a turbo. I Was thinking sunfire GT, maybe?
    1994 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Special Edition, Black 5-Speed
    1995 BMW 540i, Alpineweiss-III, 6-Speed
    1995 BMW 540i, Schwarz-II, Automatic
    2004 Honda 919, Light Silver Metallic, 6-Speed

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    RE: Likkle Bitty Turbo

    What size of engine is this going onto?

    Sunfires never had turbo's, The old Sunbird 2.0L came with a turbo engine option however.

    If for somereason you just need a small ass'd turbo the 13G from an Automatic equipped 2.0L talon/eclipse/lazer (4g63T engine) would be a small itty bitty turbo.
    Colin
    92 Sunbird GT, 3200 Hybrid 13.99@ 95.22 (2004)
    90 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 10.54 @ 129mph.

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    • #3
      RE: Likkle Bitty Turbo

      yea or find a real old sunbird with a 1.8l turbo motor in it, they are a real tiny t2. mazda 323 also has a real small turbo.

      what is it being used for???

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      • #4
        Bah. I ment sunbird, honestly. It's goign on a 1994 GP GTP with stock internals. Mainly, though, it's just to let me fab up a turbo manifold set in Metals class for credit.
        1994 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Special Edition, Black 5-Speed
        1995 BMW 540i, Alpineweiss-III, 6-Speed
        1995 BMW 540i, Schwarz-II, Automatic
        2004 Honda 919, Light Silver Metallic, 6-Speed

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        • #5
          well, a little bitty turbo like that is seriously a waste of time. im no turbo experts, however i do know that even the t25 on the turbo 3.1l was almost to small for a 3.1l.

          the only use i have seen for a tiny turbo is a 4 cyl diesel for offroad. saw a toyota diesel pickup with a mazda 323 turbo on it. 15lb boost at 1300rpm.

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          • #6
            volvo 4 cyls usally have a little turbo(and a nice sized intercooler)
            1995 camaro 3.4 5-speed

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            • #7
              YEa. Volvo (T3) ,Mazda MX-6 (IHI RHB-5), Probe GT(RHB-5, Mercury fag car (forget name, Miatas sister car(T2), 87-88 thunderbird(IHI RHB52), Subarus(RHB5), Audi 5000(KKK), Saab 900(T3), Chrisler Laberan, Minivan,(T3, TO3). ..many Dogde. IF you want the TINIEST of all..Look for a Pontiac Fire Fly...LOL.
              88 Beretta GTU turbo . 90 Black ASC/McLaren TGP, awaiting 4t80. 2003 Grand AM se 3400/4t45 daily grind.

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              • #8
                why go for the tiny size? just grab cheap if its just for a mock-up, look on ebay, maybe you can get a locked up one for $20
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TurboGTU
                  YEa. Volvo (T3) ,Mazda MX-6 (IHI RHB-5), Probe GT(RHB-5, Mercury fag car (forget name, Miatas sister car(T2), 87-88 thunderbird(IHI RHB52), Subarus(RHB5), Audi 5000(KKK), Saab 900(T3), Chrisler Laberan, Minivan,(T3, TO3). ..many Dogde. IF you want the TINIEST of all..Look for a Pontiac Fire Fly...LOL.
                  TurboGTU, I'm surprised!! You only hit the nail on half the head!!! You mentioned the '87-88 thunderchickens but left out the '83-86 turbo-chicks! They had T3's stock that were good for up to 25lbs worth of boost. Actually, the Mustang GT 2.3, Mercury Xr4ti, Cosworth Sierra Escort (euro edition, turbo AND AWD!!!), and some others I cant think of all share the same engine. And yes, I know 'cuz I owned an '86 Cougar XR-7 Turbo 5 speed (and 4 wheel steering!)
                  Tuning a car is full of compromises. You must decide if you are willing to give up either reliability, performance, or a whole load of cash. Also remember that repairs will seem to come up much more often as you strive for even more performance

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                  • #10
                    Oh...but in deed I didn't forget those 60/63 T3 which I have now on my 87 ThunderHAWK orted head, Ranger roller, total seal , 2.3. He wants small..so I gave him junk...LOL.


                    And '86 Cougar xr-7 5spd 4 wheel steering...I would REALLLY love to see that car. Is it a One off?
                    I only know of the ford probe and Mx-6 to have 4 wheel steering...could be wrong. I used to own a 88 Mazda MX-6 GT turbo.
                    88 Beretta GTU turbo . 90 Black ASC/McLaren TGP, awaiting 4t80. 2003 Grand AM se 3400/4t45 daily grind.

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                    • #11
                      a small turbo that is very common can be found on '88 2.2L Turbo Dodges with the 'Turbo-I' engine, as well as '89-'93 Turbo Dodges with the 2.5L 'Turbo-I' engine. they use a very small Mitsu TE04H turbo. i have a blown TE04H sitting in my garage. they have a T3 sized turbine inlet but a Chrysler specific bolt pattern. the downside is that you'll have to either pull the engine or the remove the cylinder head with intake and exhaust manifold attatched to get to the turbocharger.
                      '91 Cutlass Supreme sedan - 3.1 Intercooled Turbo / Getrag HM-282 5-speed - 13psi / lightly modded
                      '98 Regal GS - 3800 Series II Supercharged/HM-4T65E-HD - 180* T-stat, otherwise stock


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TurboGTU
                        Oh...but in deed I didn't forget those 60/63 T3 which I have now on my 87 ThunderHAWK orted head, Ranger roller, total seal , 2.3. He wants small..so I gave him junk...LOL.


                        And '86 Cougar xr-7 5spd 4 wheel steering...I would REALLLY love to see that car. Is it a One off?
                        I only know of the ford probe and Mx-6 to have 4 wheel steering...could be wrong. I used to own a 88 Mazda MX-6 GT turbo.
                        Sounds nice! You know we're going to start something really evil on here by talking about ferds. I agree, the ihi was junk (18psi vs. 25psi, which do you think is more fun?)

                        My cougrrr was one of about 2k cars built. It didnt "have" 4ws per sey rather the way it had 4 shocks (2 vertical and 2 horizontal) creating a "floating" rear axle that acted (very realisticly) like 4ws. I could drift like crazy in that damn car, no e brake needed. How I miss it. Death by ejected cam follower.
                        Tuning a car is full of compromises. You must decide if you are willing to give up either reliability, performance, or a whole load of cash. Also remember that repairs will seem to come up much more often as you strive for even more performance

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Doubt_Incarnate
                          why go for the tiny size? just grab cheap if its just for a mock-up, look on ebay, maybe you can get a locked up one for $20
                          Tiny size because I do plan to use it if it works. If not, then I want something that I can use if I find another one. And no credit card, so no ebay. Pretty much junkyards only.

                          Okay, thanks for the list guys, I'll be looking in the local yards this weekend.
                          1994 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP Special Edition, Black 5-Speed
                          1995 BMW 540i, Alpineweiss-III, 6-Speed
                          1995 BMW 540i, Schwarz-II, Automatic
                          2004 Honda 919, Light Silver Metallic, 6-Speed

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                          • #14
                            smallest turbo I have ever seen was off a maserati biturbo. I mean the thing was barely bigger then my hand.

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                            • #15
                              I should think that the turbo from a Chevy Sprint/Spectrum would be a bit on the small side, though finding one may be a tough proposition.
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                              1997 Olds CS 4-door S/C - 183,527 miles
                              1999 Chevrolet Lumina 3100 - Wife took it at 158,340 miles
                              1989 Volvo 740GL Wagon 2.3 8v - 232,050 miles

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