eaton M62 on 3400?

[recci03]

hey guys, im pretty new to this site, and this question has probably been asked a dozen times, but can the eaton M62 supercharger be installed on the 3400 SFI motor? if so, what all would i need, and is it worth the money to buy it, for the power that will come out of it?
thanks.

[Raffaelli]

I have seen on the web a guy who put one on his 660 beretta. Stuck outa the hood about 8 inches.

Very mad max looking.

The m90 is a bigger charger FYI. Thats on gen 2 and 3 3800SC.

Wait a minuite, scroll down the forum page to 2.8 + M90. Thats what im talkin about...

[IsaacHayes]

Scott McGavin is the one with the blower on his old Z26 Beretta. And it was a M90 from a Series II 3800, so it was a Gen4 blower.

[robertisaar]

considering the cost and effort required, don't bother with a m62, go straight for the m90. a 3400 flows more than enough to allow it.

gen4? i've only ever seen 3 and 5...

[gar70614]

i thought there was a now discontinued kit to put a m62 on a 3400? thought ide seen them on grandamgt.com b4

[no_doz]

theres absolutely no point considering older m90s flow 20% more & are easier/cheaper to get ahold of due to how common they are-not to mention the newer generation MP90's flow 25-30% more air with what ive been told is much less heat than the older models.

for the 3400, an MP90 (gen 4 m90) is very appropriately sized & arent hard to find, that m62 is just too small & would be pointless if you are going to do that much work.

http://www.capa.com.au/eaton.htm

also if you go with the M90 or MP90 you can get ahold of one of these bad boys

http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products.php?id=139

good luck with your endeavor & you may want to start with a mildly ported or cleaned up/gasketmatched 3500 topend (heads & upper/lower intake manifold)-everyone thats done it seems quite impressed & it doesnt seem particularly expensive compared with some of the other options out there.

and the most important things you want to consider when supercharging are most likely going to be tuning (should be done with an HP tuner which is $500-$700 depending on where you go) as well as pulley alignment-if you dont get it aligned just right you will go through belts big time-ask a few of the SC guys around here that seem to have been plagued with these problems. on top of these things the intake is VERY important because if you dont make a custom one & just cut a hole in your stock upper intake & mount the supercharger to it-you will end up with this:

http://www.angelfire.com/super/ghettoretta/m90/sc.htm

also if you are tempted to ask if a grand prix GTP intake or topend will fit on your motor-it wont-completely different equipment/engines.

i hope this helped-there is plenty of info on how to do this, but may require a good deal of searching to find it.

also that kit if i remember correctly was a POS & way overpriced & is generally known of around here as a joke (if im thinking of the right kit)-also i dont believe its sold anymore but at a $3000.00+ for the kit it was overpriced & i think ive heard a good deal about the superchargers having problems with the snouts actually bending-but ill need someone else to confirm/correct this information about the kit.

[bszopi]

also that kit if i remember correctly was a POS & way overpriced & is generally known of around here as a joke (if im thinking of the right kit)-also i dont believe its sold anymore but at a $3000.00+ for the kit it was overpriced & i think ive heard a good deal about the superchargers having problems with the snouts actually bending-but ill need someone else to confirm/correct this information about the kit.

No, you are thinking of the wrong kit. The M62 kit was made by Mangacharger, but there were only 7-8 ever produced. Most of them have seen 2-3 cars in their lifetime, and you can find them for sale every now and again on GAGT.com. It was a decent kit, but as stated, its a little undersized for the engine. But, in order to make a kit that was able to be installed by the bolting it on, that is probably all they were able to fit in the GA bay.

[IsaacHayes]

Oh then it must be gen3. I know Gen5 is on the SeriesIII 3800, I figured a gen4 was on the SeriesII...

[robertisaar]

Oh then it must be gen3. I know Gen5 is on the SeriesIII 3800, I figured a gen4 was on the SeriesII...

AFAIK: Eaton skipped 4.... i know the gen 5 are S33800, and all l67s before that are definitely gen 3. the earliest ones may have a m62 or a gen 1 or 2 blower, not sure, don't care.

[feavs]

Link for the mp4's

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MP90-4th-Generation-Supercharger-by-Magna-Charger_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em14Q2el1262QQhashZitem27ab08a50fQQitemZ170373195023QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

289 ain't bad. They physically look smaller then a gen 3, wonder if they are.

[Nick-G]

No, you are thinking of the wrong kit. The M62 kit was made by Mangacharger, but there were only 7-8 ever produced. Most of them have seen 2-3 cars in their lifetime, and you can find them for sale every now and again on GAGT.com. It was a decent kit, but as stated, its a little undersized for the engine. But, in order to make a kit that was able to be installed by the bolting it on, that is probably all they were able to fit in the GA bay.

Yup that sounds about right.

This was my setup before I went turbo.

[no_doz]

is that the one thats known for problems or am i thinking of the rsm kit?

[robertisaar]

is that the one thats known for problems or am i thinking of the rsm kit?

RSM had shaft problems IIRC.

[Nick-G]

RSM had shaft problems IIRC.

Yup RSM had the problems not the one I posted.

[no_doz]

how much power were you pushing with that setup, nick?