Well, the secret is out...

[ForcedFirebird]

I signed up to this forum just to defend myself against the almighty Fiero's (no this doesn't included you Joseph :P)...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/095562.html

[Joseph Upson]

I signed up to this forum just to defend myself against the almighty Fiero's (no this doesn't included you Joseph :P)...

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/095562.html

I take it you received the PM I sent you over there warning about the attitudes you can encounter, there are a lot of great minds there but there is an equal amount of bad attitudes and you're almost guaranteed to encounter doubters when you're doing something new and different.

The majority of the swappers are still building up iron heads with the Fiero's restrictive intake or even worse a naturally aspirated 3800 when the 3400 and 3500 with a little of the mods they are doing would return a lot more performance. As I stated in the PM, don't waste your breath, just show them.

[loner666]

Wonder what when/if the Fiero guys will have anything to say about my car. Ill have some new videos hopefully tomorrow night of it. Shooting for 12s this time

And why dont you ever post my 13.1 video when your showing off? lol

[Joseph Upson]

Wonder what when/if the Fiero guys will have anything to say about my car. Ill have some new videos hopefully tomorrow night of it. Shooting for 12s this time

And why dont you ever post my 13.1 video when your showing off? lol

I just chimed in on the thread because I knew a little about the subject. I've mentioned a lot about what's going on with the newer generation engines on the Fiero Forum but the Iron Head fever persists over there. You should look up merlots 3.4L thread over there to see how much he invested in building that iron head motor and what he got in return, before he came on over from the dark side.

Most of the rehtoric is from individuals that are thinking in iron head terms because they have little to no knowledge or experience with what the aluminum head motors can do and only know about what has been achieved with the 3.4L.

Despite what Superdave has accomplished naturally aspirated, they're not making the connection with what the same engine can do turbocharged.

Even your engine with its smaller displacement out performs the 3800 SC, but they're still flocking to it.

[ForcedFirebird]

Wonder what when/if the Fiero guys will have anything to say about my car. Ill have some new videos hopefully tomorrow night of it. Shooting for 12s this time

And why dont you ever post my 13.1 video when your showing off? lol

They haven't said anything bad since I showed up, even though there has been 700 more views.

I show that video because it's my favorite. I love the way the Mustang jumps the light and you still manage to chace him down after spinning your tires for what's probably a second

[loner666]

lol. True. If the car is happy with me tonight you'll have some new times to brag about. Took the system out, getting better radials (hopefully) better "meth", going to bring the rear up alittle probably and going hoodless for less weight and because I broke one of my hood latches Damn things are $110 a set.....12.9 or bust. Which reminds me, gotta fix my small meth leak and get my boost controller hooked back up

[IsaacHayes]

Will they let you run hoodless at the track? Might not...

[Superdave]

show them this video... http://videos.streetfire.net/video/V...ile_176252.htm

[ForcedFirebird]

show them this video... http://videos.streetfire.net/video/V...ile_176252.htm

Hmm. I didn't have a hand in that car

[loner666]

Track here lets you run hoodless as long as you have an electric fan and an air filter.

John, You have a PM. Everyone else will have to wait for the news

[ForcedFirebird]

Had about 1.5 hrs to fool around with it today between the son's soccer practice and dinner









Still have to figure out the WG mounting. The turbo bracket is temporary for welding it up after I get the other side situated. Sure wish I had more time for my own build hehe.

[pocket-rocket]

Is that an M90 on the floor in front of your engine? I know your secret! Your actually putting an L67 in your car! Shame on you man.... Shame one you...

[RedZMonte]

you running external gates or internal? looks like you have enough clearance to run internal gaes. If your runing external gates thats cake, just add a flange at the collector.

S

[ForcedFirebird]

you running external gates or internal? looks like you have enough clearance to run internal gaes. If your runing external gates thats cake, just add a flange at the collector.

S

I'm going to do the same thing I did on Loner's car. Drill a 1 5/8" hole in the rear of the collector going straight back at the firewall, then connect to the gate and re-circulate to the downpipe. The down pipe is going to go straight out of the turbo to a 90* that will go between the #4 and #6 cyl down to the bottom of the oil pan - another 90* facing the rear of the car. Both sides are planned this way, and will Y into a single 3" mandrel exhaust pipe with dual 3.5" exits (Dynaomax muffler).

[Joseph Upson]

I'm going to do the same thing I did on Loner's car. Drill a 1 5/8" hole in the rear of the collector going straight back at the firewall, then connect to the gate and re-circulate to the downpipe. The down pipe is going to go straight out of the turbo to a 90* that will go between the #4 and #6 cyl down to the bottom of the oil pan - another 90* facing the rear of the car. Both sides are planned this way, and will Y into a single 3" mandrel exhaust pipe with dual 3.5" exits (Dynaomax muffler).

Consider a flexible extension in line with the wastegate downpipe, otherwise it can be a headache to get things to line up. I decided against open dump this time and found myself having to loosen every exhaust related bolt, inlet and outlet at the turbo in order to properly line up the wastegate flange after it was welded up and it still wasn't perfect. I went 18 ga on the exhaust from the turbo because it endures the least heat stress but at the same time is subject to the most warpage if excess welding heat is generated to soon.

God gave me a wonderful brain I must admit. When the angle of the dump pipe merge turned out to be to narrow for the MIG nozzle, I fabricated a pencil size nozzle out of some hollow aluminum tubing just the right diameter and used some tape to insulate the tip. It worked well enough for me to fill in the gap without a pile of metal reaching to a wider area.