Supercharged Propane 3.4

[ssdurango]

here's a pic of the slots, filling these in apparently increases efficiency by letting less air flow back into the case.

[sphinksvt]

Hello I am new to the site. Thought I may get some info on turbocharging my 3.4 comaro. Anyhow I just read on an ebay add for a hydrogen generator that any modification done to burn a cleaner fuel is tax deductable. Don't really know how true it is because as I said I read it on an ebay add but figured it may be worth your while to check out. Looks like a sweet project.

[hookdonspeed]

yea, thats not something i would want to put in my car, to generate hydrogen (im asuming probly from water?) takes ALOT of electricity, would be a major strain on your alternator, not to mention, hydrogen, is not heat/flame friendly, the change of a leak (not sure how much it would be making?) and blowing my car to hell, isnt worth saving a few pennys...

might wana start a new thread about it, someone might have more/diffrent input on the subject, and not be reading this thread...

edit: and u might wana talk to forcedfirebird on the boosting a camaro, im sure he would have alot of input for you.

[Azrael]

The other downside to running propane is that it has a hard time starting when the ambeint temp goes below freezing in winter. I've also heard it rots exhaust parts much more quickly but this was based on a co-worker's European econobox and might not mean anything.

[ForcedFirebird]

yea, thats not something i would want to put in my car, to generate hydrogen (im asuming probly from water?) takes ALOT of electricity, would be a major strain on your alternator, not to mention, hydrogen, is not heat/flame friendly, the change of a leak (not sure how much it would be making?) and blowing my car to hell, isnt worth saving a few pennys...

might wana start a new thread about it, someone might have more/diffrent input on the subject, and not be reading this thread...

edit: and u might wana talk to forcedfirebird on the boosting a camaro, im sure he would have alot of input for you.

The generators are basically a tank of water and acid that has a SMALL electrical charge run through it. I made a hydrogen rocket that only used a 1/2 dead D cell battery both for ignition and to make the fuel. It was less than 1oz of water and a few drops of lemon juice. Hooked the leads up to the D cell and waited about 30sec. Then when it was ignited, you could hardly see the ~2.5 tall rocket once it reached the apex of the flight lol.

A guy that comes in now and again for parts made a tank. With less than 5 gal of water and Liquid Drano he has had a flame going for about a month.

sphinksvt, I would be glad to answer any questions, you can start a thread in the boost section (or PM me) there's lots of well educated people here. Welcome to the community

[hookdonspeed]

realy? i stand corrected then..
i coulda swore when i readup on that before they were saying how it took stupid amounts of current

[candychevy87]

''A guy that comes in now and again for parts made a tank. With less than 5 gal of water and Liquid Drano he has had a flame going for about a month.''

there has to be a way to harness a energy like this, weather it be rocket propulsion or internal combustion that's bad a**

[ssdurango]

Here it is with the pipes on now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoEHR6um29A

(I think I DO need a blow off valve!, the ford bypass valve isn't doing the job in a blow through set-up)

[ForcedFirebird]

You know you are going to have problems with the silicone junctions at 15psi anyways. Might want to fab some tie bars.

[3400-95-Modified]

Wow... why on earth would you not put a blow off valve on a boosted setup...

And now seeing the pipes on I understand how that all works... Before I was like WTF there is two air inlets... I though it was like a 3800 blower where the bottom is the outlet of the air, didnt realize it pulled the air in the back, and blew it out the top.

[ssdurango]

Well, The bypass valve on the back of the S.C. worked great when the throttle was upstream from the S.C. (draw through system) I've built a 'blow through' system and I thought the bypass would still work. But now I know, The S.C. is moving way to much air in this configuration.

Do you know of other S.C.ed setups for Blow off valves?

[3400-95-Modified]

Well yeah that makes sense, a draw through works totally different... your cutting off source, on a blow through as soon as you snap that throttle shut the motor is still spinning and it still has an air source but no where to go, so that boost has to go somewhere... and it found your slipperiest clamp LOL

Time to put a duck call blow off valve on it...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VbNxugO-uf0

[ForcedFirebird]

Well, The bypass valve on the back of the S.C. worked great when the throttle was upstream from the S.C. (draw through system) I've built a 'blow through' system and I thought the bypass would still work. But now I know, The S.C. is moving way to much air in this configuration.

Do you know of other S.C.ed setups for Blow off valves?

I've seen them on centrifugal S/C's have them, they are typically blow through.

[ssdurango]

So, I'm now running a blow-off valve as well as a ford bypass valve and I'm still building air in the pipes even at idle. I'm going to go with 2 very larger BOVs and see...here's a vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erKJnqg9KVw

[ForcedFirebird]

It appears you have the BOV reference line hooked up wrong? The reference line need to be hooked up to the manifold after the TB. This way when the engine sees vacuum (throttle plate closed) the BOV should then open and allow the excess charge in the pipes escsape. In the video it looks like the more throttle you gave it, the more it would open.