WOW!! 12.20 in a Beretta

[feavs]

is that thing street driven? If so, I'll keep an eye out for it. I'm just in the outskirts of hamilton (mount hope/ancaster area).

Congrats on the time.

[3400beretta]

Yeah its street driven, occasionally.

[bob442]

thats one yellow wall going on in here...

[95SleeperAcheiva]

Let me add to this wall!

I am determined to see mid 12's this year. If Asylum is running 12.50 in a NA 3500 I should be able to catch him.

That is a NA 3500 right? No N20? blowers or other power adders?

I wasn't going to kill myself to work on her this year for money reasons, But I'll break my backside to see 12's by the next 60 degree meet and run next to asylum. I'll be happy to be close, i don't need to beat him!

[3400beretta]

Not quite, lol.

Thats my car that ran 12.52. Turbo 3500.

Eric is hoping to run a low 13 this year with his new combo, still N/A.

[bob442]

have you guys ever thought about rear air bags to hook up better? and have less weight thrown around on the car? look at your launch's, and imagine what would happen if the rear end never squated down...

[Superdave]

have you guys ever thought about rear air bags to hook up better? and have less weight thrown around on the car? look at your launch's, and imagine what would happen if the rear end never squated down...

Yes, i did and they were a waste of time and money IMO.

[3400beretta]

Yes, I have thought of it. And no, they are not a waste of time. IF your rear end is squating, which Eric's does, then they are useful. They are commonplace in the Grand National world, and there is a reason for it.

But if you already have super stiff springs in the rear end, they are obviously not going to help very much.

[bob442]

regardless of stiff springs, and redusing squat, but to load all the weight on the front tires... kinda like this kid did... if worked for him, look at that traction!

http://www.streetfire.net/video/Neon-Burnout-with-Clutch_732168.htm

[IsaacHayes]

Mars Man uses airbags on his SCS 3400 and runs low 12's. I always wondered if you got air shocks and aired up the rear end as high as it would go what would happen..

I saw a riced out 93 2 door cavalier with the rear end jacked up to high heaven with air shocks and a huge ass wing on it at walmart last summer... LOL

[bob442]

I would imagine it would be an epic fail like the neon. or a really great hook up. nothing else.

i'd like to see an air bag that you stick in your spring strut assembally for that purpous. just like an air spring but hollow in the middle. you guys should be able to setup a air spring no problem for cheap in the j bodys...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AIR-60769/

[robertisaar]

Mars Man uses airbags on his SCS 3400 and runs low 12's. I always wondered if you got air shocks and aired up the rear end as high as it would go what would happen..

not exactly FWD, but 83 Elky with ~250psi air shocks aired liked 90% gives a absolutely stuipd amount of travel... and effects traction quite a bit.

[IsaacHayes]

Well then air shocks are out.. LOL

[robertisaar]

Well then air shocks are out.. LOL

not necessarily. i bet the same shock system wouldn't have ANY transfer of weight to the rear of a FWD car... not until you get to some hellaciously sticky tires and a LOT of grunt...

[IsaacHayes]

I don't know. I have Eibachs and the KYB Gas-A-Just shocks which are a lot stiffer than KBY GR2's. My rear end squats a lot still. The orange car, not so much, it just goes to straight spinning the wheels... LOL