Injector flow rates, got any injectors lying around?

[SappySE107]

So if you have an injector lying around that I dont have, and wanna send it in, ill pay for the service. Of course, ill take donations on this cause as well since its for everyone's information. I have a brand new 95 DOHC injector, and a 91 injector that is old and MAY need to be cleaned first before we know its accurate flow rate. Same goes with a 2000 3100 injector that I have. Ive been told the 3400 injectors are the same so if anyone has the numbers on the side of a 3400 multec 2 injector, let me know. I need 3100 multec 1 and 3400 multec 1 as well. TBI injectors, need those as well.

If anyone has a datasheet from witchhunter or another place, with the rating at 43.5 PSI, let me know. I want to make sure our list is 100% accurate and comparable between each injector.

Cost is $15 each to be cleaned and flowed, and I believe $5 to just have it flowed (i need new injectors to get away without the cleaning process first).

[bszopi]

RE: Injector flow rates, got any injectors lying around?

Here is Marty's sheet from Witchhunter for the injectors out of my 01 3400. Not sure if that would be Multec 1 or 2, but I'm thinking 2...

[SappySE107]

RE: Injector flow rates, got any injectors lying around?

it would be 2. Cool, ill compare with the 3100 multec 2 then. Need a sheet though:P

[sil]

hi, i have this info sitting on my puter, cant remember where i got it from
it isnt complete but offeres a bit of info

id love to know for sure what kind of injectors i have now(lbs/hr) from a 96ish 3100 topend, roller rocker heads, green band injectors, so i can input that info correctly into my code before i actually start running the car

anyways heres some info

Conversion From cc/min to lbs./hour to HP
500cc?s per minute is approximately equal to 49lbs per hour which is equal to approximately 100 HP.
Common conversions:
Lbs./hour = cc per minute / 10.2
Lbs. per hour = HP / 2.04
cc per minute = lbs./hour x 10.2
cc per minute = HP x 5
HP = cc per minute / 5
HP = lbs. per hour x 2.04


MSD 2018 38.0 lbs/hr
MSD 2013 50.0 lbs/hr


Bosch 0 280 150 001 265 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 002 265 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 003 380 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 009 265 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 155 009 346 cm3/min Saab Turbo
Bosch 0 280 150 015 380 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 024 380 cm3/min Volvo B30E
Bosch 0 280 150 026 380 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 036 380 cm3/min MB 4.5l
Bosch 0 280 150 041 480 cm3/min MB 6.9l V8 / Cadillac
Bosch 0 280 150 043 380 cm3/min BMW
Bosch 0 280 150 100 185 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 121 178 cm3/min
Bosch B 280 410 144 434 cm3/min Bosch R-SPORT
Bosch 0 280 150 200 300 cm3/min BMW
Bosch 0 280 150 201 236 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 203 185 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 208 133 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 209 176 cm3/min Volvo B200-B230
Bosch 0 280 150 211 146 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 335 300 cm3/min Volvo B230 turbo
Bosch 0 280 150 400 437 cm3/min Ford 4.5l
Bosch 0 280 150 401 437 cm3/min Ford
Bosch 0 280 150 402 338 cm3/min Ford
Bosch 0 280 150 403 503 cm3/min Ford
Bosch 0 280 150 614 189 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 704 170 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 706 214 cm3/min 250kPa
Bosch 0 180 150 712 214 cm3/min 250kPa Saab Turbo 2.3l
Bosch 0 280 150 715 149 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 716 134 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 762 214 cm3/min Volvo B230F
Bosch 0 280 150 802 284 cm3/min Volvo B200 turbo, Renault J7R turbo
Bosch 0 280 150 804 337 cm3/min Peugeot 505T
Bosch 0 180 150 811 298 cm3/min 3.5kPa Porsche Turbo 944
Bosch 0 280 150 814 384 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 834 397 cm3/min
Bosch 0 280 150 835 397 cm3/min Chrysler
Bosch 0 180 150 951 346 cm3/min Porsche Turbo


Flow PSI Resist Mfg. Part Color Application
1.76 (14) ?? 2.25 Bosch E3EE-BA Blue 1983 1.6L
1.76 (14) ?? 2.35 ND E4EE-AA Blue 1984 1.6L
1.76 (14) 30 16.20 ND E59E-AB Gray 1985-6 2.3L Truck, 5.0L SEFI
1.76 (14) 33 14.50 Bosch E67C-AB Gray 1986 2.9L, 3.0L
1.76 (14) 33 14.50 Bosch E67E-BB Gray 1986 5.0L SEFI
2.45 (19) 40 2.25 Bosch E6EE-AB White 1985-6 1.9L
2.45 (19) 32 16.20 ND E6TE-AB Gold 1986 5.0L HO SEFI
2.45 (19) 33 16.20 DKK E5TE-AB Gold 1985-6 5.0L Truck
2.45 (19) 33 14.50 Bosch E5TE-BB Gold 1986 5.8L Truck
3.00 (23) ?? 2.40 Bosch E4EX-AA Black 1984-5 1.6L Turbo
3.86 (30) 35-45 2.40 Bosch E3ZE-BA Green 1983 2.3L Turbo
3.86 (30) 35-45 2.35 DKK E4ZE-AA Green 1984 2.3L Turbo
4.41 (35) 35-45 2.35 DKK E5ZE-AB Gold 1985-6 2.3L Turbo
4.54 (37) 40 2.25 Bosch E3VE-A1A Green 1984-6 3.8L CFI
4.54 (37) 40 2.0 ND E3VE-A2A Green 1984-6 3.8L CFI
5.81 (46) 33 2.40 Bosch EOSE-A1A Blue 1980-3 5.0L CFI
5.81 (46) 33 2.00 ND EOSE-A2A Blue 1983-4 5.0L CFI
5.81 (46) 33 2.25 Bosch EOSE-A1A Blue 1984 5.0L CFI
6.60 (52) 32 2.25 Bosch E4ZE-CA Gray 1984-5 5.0L HO CFI
7.00 (56) 16 1.40 Bosch E43E-AC Blue 1985-6 2.3L HSC
8.00 (64) 16 1.40 Bosch E53E-AB Green 1985-6 2.3L HO HSC, 2.5L HSC

The flow rate is gm/sec and lb./hr in parenthesis. The resistance is obvious. The manufacturer is next, I think ND is Nippondeso (sp?), I can't place DKK. The part number is constructed as follows. All injectors carry a basic part number 9F593, which is prefixed with a production release, and followed by a revision/application code. For example E3EE-BA from the table will be E3EE-9F593-BA to your local dealer. The tops of the injectors are color coded, as a quick check to the technician to make sure an engine contains the "same" injectors. I included some sample applications that may help the dealer if you are buying new, or yourself if scrounging in a junkyard
. I don't know what was used for the density of the fuel. I typically use0.79 (rounded up to 0.8 for "quickie" calculations), and I have seen John use 0.775 for "racing" fuel.



MFR Part Number cc/Min Color Ohms lbs/hr HP/ea Test Press. kPa App

Bosch 0 180 150 712 214 cm3/min 250 Saab Turbo 2.3l
Bosch 0 180 150 811 298 cm3/min 350 Porsche Turbo 944
Bosch 0 180 150 951 346 cm3/min Porsche Turbo
Bosch 0 280 150 001 265 26.0 53.0 300
Bosch 0 280 150 002 265 26.0 53.0 300
Bosch 0 280 150 003 380 37.3 76.0 300
Bosch 0 280 150 009 265 26.0 53.0 300
Bosch 0 280 150 015 380 37.3 76.0 300
Bosch 0 280 150 024 380 37.3 76.0 300 Volvo B30E
Bosch 0 280 150 026 380 37.3 76.0 300
Bosch 0 280 150 036 380 37.3 76.0 300 MB 4.51
Bosch 0 280 150 041 480 47.1 96.0 300 MB 6.91 CadillacV8
Bosch 0 280 150 043 380 37.3 76.0 300 BMW
Bosch 0 280 150 100 185 18.1 37.0 300
Bosch 0 280 150 114 185 18.1 37.0
Bosch 0 280 150 116 185 18.1 37.0
Bosch 0 280 150 121 178 17.5 35.6
Bosch 0 280 150 125 188 18.4 37.6
Bosch 0 280 150 151 240 23.5 48.0 ? BMW 633
Bosch 0 280 150 157 214 21.0 42.8 250 Jaguar 4.2L
Bosch 0 280 150 200 300 29.4 60.0 300 BMW
Bosch 0 280 150 201 236 23.1 47.2 300
Bosch 0 280 150 203 185 18.1 37.0
Bosch 0 280 150 208 133 13.0 26.6 300 BMW 323
Bosch 0 280 150 209 176 17.3 35.2 300 Volvo B200-B230
Bosch 0 280 150 211 146 14.3 29.2 300
Bosch 0 280 150 335 300 29.4 60.0 300 Volvo B230 Turbo
Bosch 0 280 150 400 437 42.8 87.4 300 Ford 4.51
Bosch 0 280 150 401 437 42.8 87.4 300 Ford
Bosch 0 280 150 402 338 33.1 67.6 300 Ford
Bosch 0 280 150 403 503 blue 0.5 49.3 100.6 300 Ford
Bosch 0 280 150 614 189 18.5 37.8 300
Bosch 0 280 150 704 170 16.7 34.0 300
Bosch 0 280 150 706 214 21.0 42.8 250
Bosch 0 280 150 712 214 21.0 42.8 250 Saab 2.31 Turbo
Bosch 0 280 150 715 149 14.6 29.8 300
Bosch 0 280 150 716 134 13.1 26.8 300
Bosch 0 280 150 762 214 21.0 42.8 300 Volvo B230F
Bosch 0 280 150 802 284 27.8 56.8 300 Volvo, Renault B200Turbo, J7R
Bosch 0 280 150 804 337 33.0 67.4 300 Peugot 505 Turbo
Bosch 0 280 150 811 298 29.2 59.6 350 Porsche 944 Turbo
Bosch 0 280 150 814 384 37.6 76.8 300
Bosch 0 280 150 834 397 38.9 79.4 300
Bosch 0 280 150 835 397 38.9 79.4 300 Chrysler
Bosch 0 280 150 945 300 red/brown 29.4 60.0 Ford MotorSport
Bosch 0 280 150 951 346 33.9 69.2 300 Porsche
Bosch 0 280 150152 230 22.5 46.0 ? Alfa Turbo
Bosch 0 280 155 009 346 33.9 69.2 300 Saab Turbo
Bosch R 280 410 144 434 42.5 86.8 300 Bosch R Sport Turbo


MFR Part Number cc/Min Color Ohms lbs/hr HP/ea Test Press. kPa App

Lucas 5202001 188 18.4 37.6 250 914 1.8L
Lucas 5204001 188 18.4 37.6 250 Fiat
Lucas 5206002 188 18.4 37.6 250 Toyota
Lucas 5206003 147 14.4 29.4 300 Startlet
Lucas 5207002 188 18.4 37.6 250 Chev 5.0L
Lucas 5207003 164 16.1 32.8 300 Buick 3.0
Lucas 5207007 147 14.4 29.4 270 Ford 1.6L
Lucas 5207011 218 21.4 43.6 300 Chev 5.7L
Lucas 5207013 201 19.7 40.2 270 Jeep 4.0L
Lucas 5208001 188 18.4 37.6 250 Nissan 280ZX
Lucas 5208003 188 18.4 37.6 250 Alfa
Lucas 5208005 237 23.1 47.2 250 Chrysler,BMW
Lucas 5208004 237 23.1 47.2 250 Ford 98CID
Lucas 5208006 164 16.1 32.8 250 Renault
Lucas 5208007 188 18.4 37.6 250 BMW 325E


MFR Part Number cc/Min Color Ohms lbs/hr HP/ea Test Press. kPa App

Nippon 145 green 2.4 14.2 29.0 255 Toyota 1GE
Nippon 145 lt green 2.4 14.2 29.0 255 Toyota 4KE
Nippon 155 red/dk blue 13.8 15.2 31.0 290 Toyota 3EE
Nippon 155 sky-blue13.8 15.2 31.0 290 Toyota 1GFE
Nippon 155 violet 13.8 15.2 31.0 290 Toyota 3EE, 2EE
Nippon 155 violet 13.8 15.2 31.0 290 Toyota 4AFE
Nippon 176 grey 13.8 17.3 35.2 290 Toyota 4AFE
Nippon 176 lt green 13.8 17.3 35.2 290 Toyota 4AFE
Nippon 182 dk grey 2.0 17.8 36.4 255 Toyota 4AGE
Nippon 182 grey 2.4 17.8 36.4 255 Toyota 4ME,5ME, 5MGE
Nippon 200 beige 1.7 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 4YE
Nippon 200 brown 1.7 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 3VZE
Nippon 200 brown 13.8 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 3VZFE
Nippon 200 dk blue 13.8 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 3SFE
Nippon 200 dk grey 1.7 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 3SFE
Nippon 200 orange 1.7 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 22RE
Nippon 200 org/blue13.8 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 22RE
Nippon 200 pink 2.7 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 4AGE
Nippon 200 red 13.8 19.6 40.0 290 Toyota 2VZFE
Nippon 210 blue 2.4 20.6 42.0 255 Toyota 4AGE
Nippon 213 beige 13.8 20.9 42.6 290 Toyota 4AGE
Nippon 213 sky blue13.8 20.9 42.6 290 Toyota 3FE
Nippon 213 yellow 13.8 20.9 42.6 290 Toyota 5SFE
Nippon 250 brown 13.8 24.5 50.0 255 Toyota 3SGE
Nippon 250 green 13.8 24.5 50.0 290 Toyota 4AGE
Nippon 250 violet 13.8 24.5 50.0 290 Toyota 4AGE
Nippon 250 ylo/org 1.7 24.5 50.0 255 Toyota 22RTE
Nippon 251 violet 13.8 24.5 50.2 290 Toyota 1UZFE
Nippon 282 lt green 13.8 27.6 56.4 290 Toyota 2RZE
Nippon 282 violet 13.8 27.6 56.4 290 Toyota 2TZFE
Nippon 295 green 13.8 28.9 59.0 255 Toyota 3SGE
Nippon 295 pink 1.6 28.9 59.0 255 Toyota 22RTE
Nippon 295 yellow 2.7 28.9 59.0 255 Toyota 7MGE
Nippon 315 lt green 13.8 30.9 63.0 290 Toyota 7MGE
Nippon 315 pink 13.8 30.9 63.0 290 Toyota 3SGE
Nippon 365 red/org 2.9 33.9 73.0 255 Toyota 4AGZE
Nippon 430 black 2.9 42.2 86.0 255 Toyota 7MGTE, 3SGTE

[mfuller]

I dug out my flowsheet from WitchHunter for my 2000MY 3400 Multec 2 injectors (part # 25322180) -

At 43.5 psi, after cleaning, all my injectors flow between 197 and 200 cc's/min.

[blackbombshell95]

which GM engines/years came with TBI?

[SappySE107]

RWD iron head minivans I think, and some trucks. Don't know the years exactly.

My 3100 multec 2 is 25323971, so they are different than the 3400 injectors. That or they redesigned something.

[RacerX11]

My '01 3400 injectors from Brad are the same 25322180 part number as mfuller's 2000's, and they flowed the same (~200cc/min).

Don't know if you have seen this, but Witchhunter's site has flow ratings for a lot of injectors:
http://www.witchhunter.com/injectordata1.htm It shows the 25323971 3100 injectors flow 200cc/min also.

Marty

[SappySE107]

Saw that but didnt look up the 3100injectors. Cool, i wont have to flow it then I can go ahead and sell these suckers on ebay! w00t:P

I looked up my DOHC injectors though and they dont list those yet. I want a complete 60V6 fuel injector page on this site. Then any injectors that we use in the motors would be cool too.

[Rhedalert]

holy old thread!



'97 3400 injectors

[patgizz]

which GM engines/years came with TBI?

lots. 82 and 84 corvette, 82-84 trans am/z28, 87-95 trucks and vans(4.3, 305, 350, 454), 2.8L S10's, APV/transport/silhouette 3.1L to 95, the tech4 2.5L's, 4100 and 4.5L cadillacs, and i'm sure a buch more.

i love TBI, its very simple.