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  • Why do people think carbs are better?

    Ok I just cam across this statement.

    A person wanted to mod his pickup with SFI injection. His first course of action was going to be to rip out the EFI and computer and replace it with a carb and maybe a stand alone tranny controler or a 700r4.

    What up with this mindframe? He stated that a carb is "easier" and "more reliable". Where does this mind set come that EFI is less rliable? In actual fact it is about 10X more reliable and IMO is far easier to work on. I can't tell you how may hours I've burned trying to stop my stupid VW carb from icing up and having to adjust the damn thing.

    EFI, and especially SFI has so much power potential it is rediculous. I mean this guy could have turbo'd his truck had it reprogrammed and be running daily on the street with a normal idle and probabaly knock off low 13's and go home. All this without even upgrading the fuel system. If he took it upon himself and learned how to manage a fuel map he could mess around with so many variables it would make his head spin (huh! maybe I just answered my own question. People like this could just be scared of it!)Now granted on an inital build EFI is more expensive but in the long run it would pay for itself.

    What do you all think? Would you turn in your OBD ones, twos and Holley Commanders for a Street Avenger and vacuum advance?
    1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
    1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
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    RE: Why do people think carbs are better?

    :itches head: that seems like a step in the wrong direction to me... i can see if you dont like computers because you are old that you might like a carb, but i dont see any advantage to a carb unless you just havn't ever had any experience with FI
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    • #3
      RE: Why do people think carbs are better?

      If you are an old school guy who has only worked on carbs for your whole life, then there is a good enough reason to think that way. I know many people (my dad being one of them) are scared of computers and such, and they know carbs like the back of their hand. Enough of a reason to want to switch over....
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      • #4
        RE: Why do people think carbs are better?

        only other thing i can think of is that hes expecting a nuclear war
        in which case carbed engines are the only ones that will still work after the EMP from the warheads fry all the elecronics
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        • #5
          Re: RE: Why do people think carbs are better?

          Originally posted by TheProfessor
          only other thing i can think of is that hes expecting a nuclear war
          in which case carbed engines are the only ones that will still work after the EMP from the warheads fry all the elecronics
          Yes, but the electronic ignitions wouldn't work either so Diesel will be the only way to go.

          I know betterthanyou, I've seen this many times, and still have yet to figure out the "less reliable" part of EFI, let me see, how often do I open my hood on my EFI vehciles for engine maintenace/repair? Far less than my carburated vehicles.

          Oh well, let them do what they want while we will cruise past them, enjoying driving our rides, while they are under the hood tuning them because the barometric pressure dropped a few points.

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          • #6
            RE: Re: RE: Why do people think carbs are better?

            I like carbs better... because i know jack shit about computers...

            With a carb, you can do whatever you want to the engine, and it will compensate.

            At least admit a straight-up carb is better than electronic throttle body fuel injection :P... just because i hate it with passion.
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            • #7
              I don't understand it either, but my uncle is that same way. He's redoing a '49 Ford truck into a hotrod and I keep trying to make him him do an EFI setup, but he wants a carb.

              I swapped a small block 350 into my '80 Jeep CJ-5 and it has a quadra-jet carb on it and it runs pretty good. I'm looking to switch to a throttle-body setup on it though because it's most used for off-roading and it tends to stall on steep grades.
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              • #8
                as long as the weather where you are stays the same a carb is a simple cheap set up. But if the weather changes one little bit its back to the drawing board because then you have to throw in a choke. Electric vac or manual they can really be a pain in the ass. My personal fav is EFI. No matter what the weather is I turn the key and it starts. With a carb you have your little rituals like pump the pedal 1.5 times give it about 3/4 pull on the choke turn it over 2 times etc...and it might or might not start. I dont have anything against the carb itself. I guess its the stupid chokes I dont like. As far as power goes Ithink the jury is still out in my opinion. Look at what the NASCAR guys are getting out of their mixers. But your right about the potential tunability in EFI.
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                • #9
                  I can completly understand why NASCAR uses a carb. It is a traditional sport that holds traditional values. I can respect that. Same with Pro Stockers. How lame would that series be if they had a computer to compensate during the run. Imagine traction control Keeping the use of a carburetor in these sports makes for better competition.
                  1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
                  1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
                  Because... I am, CANADIAN

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                  • #10
                    my opinion is that carbs are better than TBI though
                    I Like V660s
                    Does Chevy make beer
                    ~Jayme~

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                    • #11
                      i think the reason that people prefer carbs over fuel injection is that the are far more simpler to work on as far as maintnance goes. there are vrey few things that controll how a carb setup runs and there is is no sensors at all on them that could affect there performance. now with that said i think the potential for power of fuel injection is far greater than with a carbed setup. i mean lets look at who is saying they like carbs better. older guys or people that don't have the education and know how to fully tune a fuel injaection setup. in my opinion fuel injection is better. but that's just my opinion.

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                      • #12
                        EFI is simply a carb with almost infinite SELF ADJUSTMENT.

                        That being said, my personal fav, all around, is the QuadraJet... it'll run on anything, from a 4 banger to a 455ci V8. Extremely adjustable!

                        Why are they hated by all the carb guys? Same reason they hate EFI. 'Too complicated for them'
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