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  • #16
    Ok where to begin?

    Well in the past, police packages were special packages on ordinary sedans that for the most part were unavailable to civilians. For example, 428 Pontiac motors with 6 packs or dual 4bbl carbs, CT T-type regals with the GNX motor 2 years before it was sold as a GNX, supercharged Fords with 429s, stickshift 454 powered mid-70's caprices....and in each case they came with the largest brakes, upgraded suspension mods, some armoring etc.

    In the 80's, Ford put 351 VV motors in the LTD/crown vics that could not be purchased by the masses period. Chevy put 3 and E code 350s in the caps that were likewise. Larger numerically ratioed axles were used, tranny shift programming, HD alts, cooling, and brakes and suspension parts (these of which COULD be had by the public if they knew where to look).

    In the 90's the 9C1 package came to mean police package but not neccessarily the 350 'LT1' motor. In all cases 9C1 got better suspension parts and brakes, but the armoring and lighting were typically done post-factory. For a while the Vic and cap of the mid 90's had the same HP as the civilian cars, but the speed limiters were removed for highway patrol sales, different instrument head units were used and the E-type trannies had better shift programs.

    Around the mid 80's, certain western states required a special car known as the 'interceptor' to replace aging high HP sedans from the 70's that were specially made. Some depts used vortech equipped mustangs, some used Kenne Bell fitted regals. Chevy pretty much gave up the police car market except fwd impala sales to local depts and 'utility sales' of special handling Tahoes for winter/desert states. Ford however still does sell the 'police interceptor' and for the most part it LOOKS like the small town dept car, except if can be special ordered with a 5.4 for NV, AZ, MT, UT and ID states (perhaps others?) and is a lightly armored version that the CIA, FBI, SS also buy (theirs are armored and reinforced post-factory)

    The big difference in the highway patrol dept across the USA is that the 4.6VIC has different programming and a 130mph speed limiter, which as you know the civilian version would never hit

    As for armoring, it usually consists of plates in the back of the drivers seat, the 'gate', plates in the trunk firewall, special glass for the windshield and front seat, as well as plating under the drivers seat. Some places even use shielded cooling and run flat tires. Most of this is post factory and is often removed at sale time, as well as the goofy light wiring.

    Would I buy a police car? No. They are worn out. Dont care what motor is in them, it needs rebuilt.

    Of note, some local municipalities do have cars specially modified for police work. Many places have a 'nostalgic' feel and ressurect 1960's police sedans. You might recall one used in the movie '3000 miles to graceland', that was an actual 'in use today' throwback police car borrowed for the movie. Until last year, our local town used mid 80's caps with 260hp GM crate motors designed as legal drop ins (which anyone can buy)
    QuadDriver.....
    go fast...run over sh....stuff

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Aaron
      Take my word for it, DON'T EVER BUY A USED POLICE CAR. The cops drive them hard, and they beat the shit out of them. We had the crown vic up to 120, and sustained that for about 25 minutes at WOT. He had that Crown vic at WOT more than he did at part throttle through his entire shift. Every call we went to he had it floored. Curbs were nothing. To him they were like striped lines-meant to be avoided but not. I can't even count how many curbs he hit dead on. I seriously thought it'd blow his tires. Hell we fucking jumped a curb in the Z28! Trannsmissions. You know how you should put it in R, go back, then let it stop before you put it in drive? Yah right...Once the car was where it should be, he just cranked the shifter right back into drive, and you heard a loud clunk, and then the tires chirped and it went. And I know those trannies are good, but they have got to get sick of redline shifting, and flooring it off the line. I am shocked that those cars last as long as they do, it is a testiment to American craftsmanship for sure.
      the reverse to drive is a technique they teach government agents I saw it on a FBI training segement on history channel or something like that, the suspention is beefed up a little to handle curbs, and to be honest with you I'vehopped a couple of curbs here and there, so before anyone flames up like richard simmons. I know it is not good for my car, but neither is the 300+ miles I put on a daily basis. I'm a courier and I probally drive my car as hard as most officers, it's just part of the job that I have learned to except...along with the speeding tickets.

      I know what your saying and any used car is risky to buy because you don't know how the previous owner drove it, but at least the cop cars are maintained on a better schedule. i have decided to not buy one for the simple fact that it's a Ford, and I just don't like them although IMO the crown vic is one of my favorites bodywise.
      I wish 10% of the people on the road knew how to drive

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      • #18
        They are taken care of well, and the tires that they have on those cars cost like 160 a piece, they aren't cheap tires.

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        • #19
          They mod them... Next year i'll be taking a justice course that requires me to be a ridealong police officer for the summer. My uncle's an RCMP and my cousin used to be a police officer.

          Most of them are stock (the GM ones...) The crown vic's are modded at the local dealership and theres a place acrossed from my work that specializes in "emergency vehicle performance".

          Interceptors: Camaro(s), Crown vics (the modded ones)
          As far as ghost cars go: Expedition, Civic with body kit rims and turbo (was used to infiltrate the "street racing" club, now used as a ghost car), black Mercedes Benz (one of the nicest cars in the city, beautiful).

          Driven hard? HAHAHHA... HAH! for training: They turn the lights on to run red lights at WOT, they take every corner at WOT (learn how to control), they do "controlled" donuts and spinouts in parking lots. As far as hitting curbs go, well not really, usually only if they're pissed off/in pursuit. Think about it, your a cop so you naturally have road rage because your jobs frustrating, its not your car and you dont have to worry about any damage done to it, you dont ahve to worry about getting pulled over, you have ~250-300 horses under your foot... of course your going to bag the piss out of it.
          2001 Mustang GT
          1991 5spd Lumina Z34 - Dead
          1947 4spd International - Dead... Reincarnation pending.. getting close now .

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          • #20
            My dad has a 96' impala SS one of the last 100 made since the day it rolled off the assembly line and he tried to get the "police intercepter chip" from GM and they wouldent sell it to him... so he had the timeing massaged at a garage... and it made all the difference in the feel of the car. but other than that the impala SS is the same setup at the police intercepter package. He has it garaged... it only sees about 500 miles a year... if that. i look foreward to the day each year when he asks me if i want to take it for a spin... its so bad a$$ for a car that weighs close to 2 tons and still be fast as hell and handle like a dream.
            91\' Mazda miata.

            92\' Lumina (sold)

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            • #21
              I wouldn't call them fast as hell by any means, calling them quick might even be strething the boundries, but they are badass cars nonetheless. Truly sexy as can be, I love them. GOd those wheels look SWEET!. Someone posted a pic over at W-body of a whole pakc of then, like 10, traveling on a hgihway, taking up all 3 lanes. I really did sit there staring for liek a half hour. And he got a 96 too, the best!

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              • #22
                woah... thats sweet... i couldnt imagine a whole pack of them... i barley see them on the road.
                91\' Mazda miata.

                92\' Lumina (sold)

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