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  • p0304 miss on cylinder 2?

    anyone ever seen this?!
    ecu pulls p0304 code, it should be a miss on cylinder 4. by pulling fuel injectors and watching datastream, codes dont match to the cylinder.
    actual cyl 4 pulls misses to cyl 2
    actual 3 pulls misses to 4
    actual 2 pulls misses to 3
    cylinder 1 is the only one that matched up.

    This si the wierd shit that I get to find on a daily basis and I wonder why I'm balding.
    sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
    A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
    Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
    Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
    PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

  • #2
    If you had an extra PCM/ECU Box to throw in there... it would eliminate that problem right off the bat. The attached link will let you plumb the depths of the OBD-II Site and their Forum for more information on P0304 problems as well.



    EDIT:

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    Last edited by 60dgrzbelow0; 12-22-2011, 03:13 PM.

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    • #3
      Well, Now you're scaring me. Into cars and full of medical history and knowledge. I bet you're a riot at the coffee shops! :P

      About 4 weeks ago we had an ECT code that wouldn't go away, turned out it was a bad ECU and replaced it with new.
      I had swapped out the entire coil pack assembly with a known good one from another engine build and that eliminated any coil issues. We ohms injectors and tested the harness, all good. I even spray pattern checked the injectors and tested flow. I ran it for 2 hours up and down the road, nothing. I stamped it fixed and sent it on it's way.

      It came back, missing on cyl 2, intermittently, throwing p0304.
      I then swapped injectors from cyl2 and 3, and changed the o-rings for good messure on all 4, found one cracked.
      ran her for 3:20, not a damn miss anywhere. next day ran her for 2 more hours, drove her hard, I got 2 misses on current data immediately after hard accel to 60 during decel.
      In other words, floored it to 60, let off gas, 2 misses on current data on all cyl. Not enough to throw a code or post in history data. It was doing this 4 weeks ago too after I thought I fixed it.
      I did find something else last night, I put a vacuum pump on the FPR and it won't hold vacuum, it bleeds down pretty quick, I'm throwing one in her today and I'll post results.

      Thansk for the help btw
      sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
      A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
      Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
      Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
      PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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      • #4
        I've see enough of your prior posts to know better than to suggest this Old Saw of an idea to someone with your experience... but...WTF...FWIW ...If replacing the FPR doesn't do the trick...and you can get that car either on a Moonless night or when you can use several blankets to temporarily shroud the hood...you might have someone sit in the car raising and lowering the RPM several times to see if you can detect any "Blue Lightning" traces from under the engine area that would let you pinpoint either a cracked or defective spark plug wire/Connector or a funky coil pack or ICM connector as the culprit. You would be surprised at what you might find!

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        • #5
          It's a 2000 Z24 2.4 Quad 4. I couldn't see the plugs without sitting IN the motor. :P
          Thats why I changed the whole coil pack set with another known good one. from boots to ICM. Threw in a set AC plugs the first time, a little Marvel in the gas, and 92 Octane too, just to try and clean up anything. I didn't get a chance to go to the shop and put the FPR on there yesterday, I'm taking a 4 day weekend for x-mas. Sometimes it's nice to call your own hours.

          Merry Christmas guys.
          sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
          A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
          Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
          Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
          PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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          • #6
            Installed FPR, no change, still get miss on decel...on all cylinders at random.
            I'm throwing this out there, I put a wave meter on the crank sensor, it tested out good during crank, the leads aren't long enough for me to hook up to it and run down the road. Seeing as this is intermittent....you think that, or is it possible, that this is my problem? I really dont want to throw parts at this thing, but everything I check, pops good, what am I missing?
            sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
            A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
            Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
            Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
            PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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            • #7
              have you checked converter backpressure?? another thing you could pop the timing cover off quick and check for slack in the chain. is the coolant level ok?
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              • #8
                I found the problem by accident. Finally got it to sit there and run with the miss at a constant. Ran through every check, spark, injector pulse, compression, etc...
                During one of the idle periods the ECT "traction" light came on while sitting stationary. Wierd. I grabbed the harness to see if the wires to the trans were loose and the miss went away. I dropped the harness and the miss came back. I then found at various spots on the engine harness I could wiggle the miss away and wiggle the miss to return.

                Replaced engine harness, $396. It's been running fine ever since. Drove me nuts I tell you!

                Thanks for the assist.
                sigpicHow to make High performance Emissions:
                A "true" High flow converter, straight pipe.
                Low/No flow EGR valve, block off plate.
                Carbon canister and purge valve mod, place in large 30 Gallon can, cover, and place curbside, the city will do the rest.
                PCV valve and vent tube, reroute to exhaust to dump where it belongs, on the ground. Or add breathers and let it all free.

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