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    A little introduction of myself. I do work with the shop the MMS shares a building with. We mainly work on import turbo applications. I'm a Mechanical Engineer for Honda of America. I graduated with a BS in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Dayton. I've owned a few 400+ Rwhp cars.

    After reading through 11 pages of complete bullshit sputtered out of the mouth theories I've come to the conclusion that maybe 2 or 3 people on here at most have the slightest idea of what they're talking about. Of the people spouting off garbage ass garbage from the mouth, how many of you own fast cars? Truly fast cars, not some 14 second garbage. I haven't seen any of these WOT port jobs and I've seen a few of Milzy's port jobs. If you want a bad ass ported head take that shit to Dave Layer and let him go at them. You'll pay about 3 to 4x as much as either one of these companies being discussed. The heads aren't really what's keeping these motors from making massive power. The reason the "blue car" made such little power on such high boost is the turbo size. It was a 57 trim turbo, not a 57mm. I run a 60 trim on my 2.0 Litre. I think these cars having such large displacement need a 35r or something of the likes. The second problem with these setups, intake manifolds. Rule of thumb for boosted applications is plenum volume should be 1.5 to 2x the size of the displacement of the engine. I'm sure one or two of you on here can do the math in your head; for the rest, bust out the old trusty MS Calculator.

    To WOT: Build a car as best you can. Tune it, and go to the track. MMS should do the same. Fuck which car makes the most power. Is this some gigantic pissing match? The only numbers that matter are the 1/4 mile numbers. I've beat 8xx whp cars with nearly half the power. Why? because my car is faster.
    Last edited by DavidBaustert; 08-10-2011, 02:24 AM.

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    Wow. So you beat a car with half the hp, because you were faster. No fucking way.

    I am grateful that 99% of my friends and customers don't act like you do.
    Ben
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    • #3
      Originally posted by SappySE107 View Post
      Wow. So you beat a car with half the hp, because you were faster. No fucking way.

      I am grateful that 99% of my friends and customers don't act like you do.
      It must be a good thing then that I'm not your friend or you customer then. Do you own a fast car? If not then shut the fuck up.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DavidBaustert View Post
        After reading through 11 pages of complete bullshit sputtered out of the mouth theories I've come to the conclusion that maybe 2 or 3 people on here at most have the slightest idea of what they're talking about.
        Originally posted by DavidBaustert View Post
        Rule of thumb for boosted applications is plenum volume should be 1.5 to 2x the size of the displacement of the engine. I'm sure one or two of you on here can do the math in your head; for the rest, bust out the old trusty MS Calculator.
        Where are your test results for various plenum sizes?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DavidBaustert View Post
          It must be a good thing then that I'm not your friend or you customer then. Do you own a fast car? If not then shut the fuck up.
          ROFL
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          • #6
            Apparently you missed the entire point of my rant. Fuck flow bench numbers, fuck dyno numbers, all that shit is arbitrary. The car that reaches point B first is the faster car. End of story. I could go on and on discussing flow theories and fluid dynamics and mechanics but porting stock heads is about as insignificant as a cold air intake. I'd be surprised to see more than a 20hp gain. I'm not sure what these heads flow like stock but regardless of who built what, I've yet to see any of these cars do anything impressive for as much displacement as they have.

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            • #7
              So compare valve sizes by comparing chassis setups. You don't know shit, but you are certain its as useless as a CAI. You only know what MMS does and you aren't impressed, but that is important to the rest of us and what has been done to date and what people are doing. Great. So why are you here anyway? You told us you know nothing about these motors, heads, anything and you don't know anything about what I do. Troll?
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              • #8
                You have received an infraction at 60DegreeV6.com

                Dear DavidBaustert,

                You have received an infraction at 60DegreeV6.com.

                Reason: Inappropriate Language
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                this is a waste of time I am sure.
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                This infraction is worth 2 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

                Original Post:

                Quote Originally Posted by SappySE107 View Post
                Wow. So you beat a car with half the hp, because you were faster. No fucking way.

                I am grateful that 99% of my friends and customers don't act like you do.
                It must be a good thing then that I'm not your friend or you customer then. Do you own a fast car? If not then shut the fuck up.
                All the best,
                60DegreeV6.com

                LOL!
                Adding a suffix to the word "fuck" must not make it inappropriate.

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                • #9
                  Should have selected the insult one, but whatever...no big loss cause I just banned you outright. I knew it was a waste of time to send the infraction.
                  Ben
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                  • #10
                    lol@ silencing people Ben. Nice try.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HOYS View Post
                      lol@ silencing people Ben. Nice try.

                      If you are lucky, maybe you'll be next. And it won't be Ben doing it...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DavidBaustert View Post
                        It must be a good thing then that I'm not your friend or you customer then. Do you own a fast car? If not then shut the fuck up.
                        Ok HOYS, so um...am I silencing people or are people just in need of not trolling my wonderful site?

                        As for head flow and cam, I use head flow with the intake manifolds and TB on, as well as the exhaust. You might be surprised what the Intake/Exhaust flow ratio is when you do that. I also offer a cam selection service to fine tune every application as best as possible. Free with cam purchase. My street/strip turbo cam is well proven now, but we havent created the customer area on the site yet to share all the results we know about.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SappySE107 View Post
                          Ok HOYS, so um...am I silencing people or are people just in need of not trolling my wonderful site?
                          Huh?

                          Either way, Dave speaks his mind on any topic and he surely knows what he is talking about. You are silencing someone when you ban them and delete their post. Banning is one thing because you don't like their attitude on the forums, deleting posts is a whole different subject.

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                          • #14
                            undeleted them before you even posted that. Glad you think MMS wants that kind of representation. I thought I was doing him and us a favor.

                            If anyone besides HOYS thinks we need David on this site, PM me. If you think he is a troll, don't PM me, cause he is already banned.
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                            • #15
                              that was a useless post anyway. the one that HOYS took the screen shot of.

                              so your buddy is fine with using parts that he has no idea how they perform and how is the flow bench useless. yeah you can port the shit out a head but if it makes it worse then how is the porting beneficial.

                              keep having people like that represent Milzy and soon enough his business will be crap. I haven't seen Milzy himself in any of these threads and the ones lately have been you (HOYS) playing club Milzy. unless he is going to come here and put his two cents in then i don't really see this continuing any further.
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