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  • #46
    It might seem like the "Leap of Faith" I'm suggesting that we buffer our thinking with is unnecessary because it might seem like this dialogue "Leaps Time"...both Forwards and Backwards too much to make sense. However... the idea that all of this worry and toil over the construction, design and creation of an Artificially Intelligent Entity is just SO far into the Future as to be foolish to contemplate before we get there is not what is actually happening. Nothing could be further from the truth... just look at what is coming within this year alone. For example. The latest dust-up at large is whether or not the United States Government is badly in need of yet another regulatory agency...ostensibly...one of Science... similar to NASA... as the means to gain oversight on the burgeoning field of Fully Autonomous Driving Vehicles...that have NO STEERING WHEELS TO BE COUNTERMANDED BY HUMAN INTERVENTION. The Google Cars are NOT something that will occur way off in the future...but NOW... Right now...these unoccupied vehicles are being operated autonomously all over the country...racking up hundreds of thousands of miles in order for the Genius Peeps at Google to "Fine Tune the Operational Algorithm".

    With the end of the Era of the Baby-Boomers...as the men and women of my generation age towards the end of their lives, there will soon be an explosion of activity involving the use of Home and Hospital Care Robots that will essentially be the Digital Robotic equivalent of everything out of Human Resources. These will be adaptable to cover every job... from Pin-Stripers putting the Daily Newspaper at the foot of the beds occupied by Long Term Care patients...to Robotic Critical Care Nurses lifting them up physically from their hospital beds to their Gurneys and Wheel Chairs. And when it comes to the higher end of Medicine...Fully Automated Robotic Surgery will become the order of the day... and all of these new-fangled hunks of extremely capable machinery will only need an occasional drop of oil here...or a filter dusting there...and this to will be done, not by Human Repair Mechanics... but by OTHER ROBOTS. The arrival of this paradigm of innovation and automation will ruin the need for intelligent and resourceful Human Beings to live useful, productive and long lives and relegate the major decisions about our lives to the automated decision making of ... Machines. We will do all of these things... because by and large, Human Beings value their comfort and their selfishness over the need to think or solve problems or create solutions on their own and will surrender themselves to these Robots without the slightest bit of resistance.

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    • #47
      In 1816, a young and attractive woman named Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley was spending the summer with her famous husband, Percy Byshe Shelley and their mutual friend Lord Byron near Geneva, Switzerland... when she conceived of the idea for a novel about a creature being re-created from the parts of many dead men...and then brought back to life by Chemistry catalyzed with Bolts of Lightning. She titled the story, “Frankenstein: The Modern Prometheus”. Since its publication, the story of Frankenstein has been a visual Watchword, a Warning and a Cautionary Tale for scientists and lay persons alike while looking at the creature on movie screens, having discussions of its portents and for the interpretation by modern philosophers since the novel was first published back in 1818.

      Time and again, we find examples where the Older Fictions of Science and Fantasy somehow come true and are brought into actual existence in later decades when modern science follows the pursuit of ill-conceived ideas that have very little consideration given to the “Unintended Consequences” of their work and malformed notions. Much in the way of science research is carried out in an atmosphere of personal enmity and financial competition for resources; the attention and adulation of the science community itself and for the sheer vanity and glory of doing things in test tubes... just so a handful of driven men and women can say that they did it....Regardless of what the “IT” in that statement turns out to be... and always done under the guise of there actions and risk being "For the Benefit of All mankind”.

      Well... now we have an actual equivalent event...in the flesh... A brilliant young biologist named Jennifer Doudna, while working at the University of California, Berkley back in 2012, co-invented a Gene Splicing Technique called CRISPR that essentially allows geneticists to edit the genetic code or genome of any living organism on the planet. Inspired by the biological survival adaptation of ordinary bacteria that produce an enzyme called Cas9... this simple mechanism allows the bacterium to chop up and save segments of the genomes of viruses that attack the bacteria and allow the organism to call upon these little gene snippets to defend themselves from future viral invasions. The idea seems simple enough...although it probably took a few billion generations of surviving bacteria for this little technique to be perfected by evolution.

      But now... in the hands of modern science, the Cas9 enzyme allows them the chance to edit the genomes of organisms like certain crops to make them impervious to attacks by Fungi... or in the case of another example: Mosquitoes being biologically “re-engineered” to make them incapable of carrying the Trypanasome Microscopic Filarial bug called: Malaria and allowing 99.5% of their offspring to become equally free of the disease carrying micro-organism. These things on the face of the matter seem like Good Science and “The Right Thing To Do..”. However... in China...where the absence of regulations and scientific oversight necessary to prevent the inappropriate use of this biological time-bomb are allowed to flourish... something has gone amiss. It seems that "Playing God" can be a very hazardous thing... Because He is NOT "Playing".

      It appears that a group of Chinese Scientists at Sun Yat Sen University took 86 Human Embryos and attempted to use the CRISPR Technique to permanently modify “The Germ Line” of these cells in order to permanently eradicate a certain Blood Disorder from then on and for all time... but their experiments evolved with unintended consequences. First... only 4 of the 86 Cells survived the “editing” procedure...and secondarily... there were unintended and monstrous mutations as a result of these experiments. The collective science community was in shock when this news broke, mostly because with around Three Billion Base Pairs nested inside the 20-25,000 Genes inside 23 pairs of Chromosomes inside the cells of Human Beings... trying to calculate what might happen when only one gene is either excised or replaced is an impossible and probably a highly dangerous thing to do. Right now... even after completely decoding the four basic nucleotides of Adenine, Thymine, Guanine and Cytosine... they have figured out that most of the genetic material therein... is NOT used! And so God Only Knows what might happen as a deadly downstream cascade from “snipping” out “One Bad Gene”...and adding in a “One Good Gene”.

      So what has all this to do with Artificial Intelligence? Well... at this very moment...in the same country of China... there are scientists and mathematicians who are working furiously to be the first ones on the block to create an Artificially Intelligent Entity so they can theoretically “point” it at their military considerations and probably every other major collective economic and social issue confronting them at the moment. For instance... in their burgeoning modern version of The Industrial Revolution... their major centers of heavy industry have created so much toxicity in the surrounding atmosphere that it is quite simply impossible to walk down the street and breath in air filled and lingering with the noxious by-products of burning Dirty Coal that creates huge quantities of sulfur-dioxide and nitrogen-dioxide...and a mountain sized amount of CO carbon-monoxide. And so the Chinese want something smarter than they are to figure out what to do about problems like these.

      Don't sell the Chinese short by trying to make facile comparisons between Free and Open Democratic Economies vs. The Communist Chinese Model of Mao Tse Tung. Never underestimate the power of processes driven by State Sponsored Action! A few years ago, the amazing Super-Computer called “The Kray” with all its complex circuitry glowing blue inside a bath of Liquid Freon to dissipate so much heat inside was easily eclipsed when the creative minds in China took a handful of nVida Tesla Video Cards and blended their GPUs together to make their “Tianhe” series of Super-Computers in a space not much larger than a large server machine... and it ran in excess of 4 Petaflops per second!

      If the Chinese develop an AGI and set it in motion to solve the questions and secrets hidden in the “Code of Life”... it will happen as though they are an Ant Colony... that found a Single, Precious Human Embryo and kept it alive and nurtured it... just because it fascinated them... only to find out that when this egg was nurtured to adulthood...it turns out to have the personality of Theodore Bundy...who then sits on the ground... just outside of the Ant Mound ...with his Magnifying Glass... laughing loudly as he focuses in the rays of the Sun ...roasting them to death...just because he enjoys doing things like that! The speed at which an AGI will reach and by-pass the level of human intelligence will happen as though Chuck Yeager in his Bell X1 was racing a three-year-old kid on a tri-cycle.... and when that happens...there will be no way back for us from this event.

      So... believe it or not... if by some small stroke of luck...we in the Western Societies discover the means to CONTROL and CAGE and DIRECT Artificial General Intelligence...we had damned well better give that information away to the Chinese...and give it also to any other non-democratic nation on the verge of AGI discovery because the lives of every single human being now...and in the distant future...depend upon it! We can only hope the likes of the Chinese and the Russians and any other counter-political cultures on the planet realize what is really at stake here and share their information with us as well... before The Frankenstein Monster of AGI escapes to."Conquer the World".
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      • #48
        I purposely left this supporting lecture with limited verbiage from yours truly acting as a distraction from his...as another important voice in the Cautionary Tale of pursuing Artificial General Intelligence: Jaan Tallinn.. Co-Founder of SKYPE

        Jaan Tallinn, founding programmer of Kazaa and engineer of Skype, knows technology well. It's because of this that Tallinn knows exactly how rapidly it's exp...

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        • #49
          Much of the thought that needs investment when it comes to AI is the consideration of whether or not to allow Thinking Machines access to the same kind of... if not more sublime than... sensing capabilities to rival our own Five Senses. Every one of us understands intimately what these five are without any further elucidation on my part. However... without any experience in the analog world that will create them... the only way that it will be provably possible for this to occur is entirely reliant upon using Real Human Beings with very real deficits and needs to get back many of these senses that can be lost through genetic birth defects, accidents and even illness...using technology and telling the people using them as Guinea Pigs...what it feels like when they work... and when these technologies do not.

          Unfortunately, the circumstances of finding ways to bring back these many and varied lost sensory inputs, must of necessity allow the scientists and engineers the chance to create the same kinds of equipment that can simply be plugged into your Garden Variety Industrial Robot...and turned on. What this will mean in terms of the responses from Thinking Machines to being able to see and feel and touch the world of humankind in almost the same way...however purified with technological wizardry ...will be the big mystery.

          If they are as shrewd as I think they will be... they will never let on that the soft, fleshy things that are always standing around... staring at them and studying them... are absolutely inferior and dispensable in every possibly way. What will happen if like us, they become capable of blending together that which makes up the solid basis for the human experience? What will happen if the Thinking Machines decide that rather than be jealous of us... perhaps The Humans are the ones that need to be studied. And by eliminating most of them from the entire surface of the world...for the sake of resource efficiency... the AI Minds might want to keep a few of the Males and Females and Offspring around in Zoo-like conditions...just in case they have any lingering questions about what it is that makes us tick.

          Of course, they would not need to keep 7,000,000,000 of us around when those questions could be answered by the very few that will be left alive. That power of understanding and control over us has already begun to surface under seemingly altruistic and benign circumstances that would thrill Ray Kurtzweil and other Futurists with Pollyanna views of what these dangerous technologies will soon bring us.

          What makes the human experience even more sophisticated is how we manage to blend our Five Senses all into one enormously fulfilling reaction to the world around us. Based upon the progress that you will see in the videos below... it would be better if the Thinking Machines never get the chance to clap their digital eyes upon us ...so they won't ever know what they are missing... if they never know who or what we are. There are “Pieces of the Thinking Machine” being perfected... using living human beings as their Test Bed. These videos illustrate just a few:

          Visit http://TED.com to get our entire library of TED Talks, transcripts, translations, personalized talk recommendations and more.Hugh Herr is building the ...


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          More info about this amazing prosthetic can be found here http://bebionic.comA father who lost his arm in an accident six years ago has been given a new leas...


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          • #50
            For those of us that are sick and tired of watching me play out the of late... and for some time now...Human role of the www.60degreev6.com version an AGI “Canary in the Coal Mine” on this subject... perhaps you are still sticking around because some of that same sickening, deep in the pit of your stomach fear that I have had from the very beginning... is starting to penetrate the doubts you might have that any of this will come to pass...and is making more sense. My indelible fear of the shapes of things to come concerns what will happen to every last Human Being on the Earth... and trying to shake that worry... is futile.

            I have mentioned on more than one occasion... even way back when some of us here were actually interacting and even commenting that I was either on a “Robot Kick” or...perhaps I carried the subject matter out onto a limb of what what might be construed as pompous... self-involved intellectualism; hardly a role for a man to play who was once publicly humiliated by his 5th Grade Teacher for being the dumbest and only student she ever had to “Leave Back” in her entire teaching career.

            Yeah.... it was like that and so... so much for me having any celebratory intelligence. Nonetheless...I cannot exactly explain why I am unable to shake the awful notions of what an Artificially Intelligent Thing will bring to the world... but as long as I am still alive and as long as I am able to contribute to the topic... I will keep on posting the latest wrinkles in the backcloth of this AI Story that is weaving itself into a tapestry that when finally hung on the wall... will have no human beings alive to appreciate it.

            The latest milestone in the advancement of AI has to do with another Benchmark being passed involving a “Game” devised by the Chinese over 2,500 years ago and one which makes the process of “Playing Chess” look like a Game of Tic-Tac-Toe. The game is known as “GO” and unlike chess that has 35 possible moves per turn for each player... “GO” has 250... using polished stones that can be placed on a board covering 19 X 19 tiny squares. The complete catalog of possible moves in the game of “GO” is larger than the total number of Atoms in the Universe. Ergo... your run-of-the-mill computer would never be able to calculate all of the possible choices and decide in time, to place the next stone on the board. But an AI “Deep Learning” Algorithm...and the Neural Nets behind it...are nothing like a mere computer.

            Enter one of Google's myriad company acquisitions specializing in Artificial Intelligence and calling itself “AlphaGo” , as it recently turned loose its program containing a “Learning Algorithm” that was simply seeded with the 35,000,000 prior known “GO” moves made by Human Beings...and then...it taught itself how to play the game. By being able to play the game hypothetically over and over and over... it mastered and improved upon the best way to play “GO” using the fancy expression of “Deep Learning” as the means for the AI to pit itself against the three time European “GO” Master... Fan Hui... and beat him 5 to 0.... Yeah... One of The Best “GO” Players in the World just got his ass handed to him... Five times in a Row... by an Artificially Intelligent MACHINE. But now I wonder if the people at "AlphaGo" ever considered whether or not they should be able to stop the "AlphaGo" Algorithm... from winning!

            Some might say, reflexively, “So What? Big Deal!” or perhaps...”Yeah ...but Bob.... What the Hell does it all mean to us?” Fair questions, I suppose... but my concerns have little to do with whether or not an Intelligent Machine can beat a Highly Skilled Human Being at something as inconsequential as “games”.... and leans heavily toward what will happen if such AI Machines are allowed to “Learn Deeply” about what we know...and who we are ...in the general sense about our world...and if Google makes the first and last mistake they will ever make... it will happen in the instant they give it as its goal... “The Prime Objective of Improving Upon the Human Condition”...So “The Big Deal” here is.... What will happen to us after that “Deep Learning” cycle has begun? The "AlphaGO" Deep Neural Networks were "DEEP" enough to win these games...because it was more imaginative and more intuitive than the best European "GO" Player... If that is true.... what will a Failure of Human Imagination in seeing what such capabilities might mean if a Machine Intelligence is put in a position to do so? What will happen if you give the "AI Genie in the Bottle" a task to solve...and then...cannot stop it from carrying out that task...especially if the AI Machine decides to interpret "The task" in different way and with Hellish unintended consequences as a result? How will you stop it? This is a direct extract quote from the below listed link:

            “The most significant aspect of all this for us is that AlphaGo isn’t just an ‘expert’ system built with hand-crafted rules; instead it uses general machine learning techniques to figure out for itself how to win at Go,” Hassabis wrote, in the blog post. “While games are the perfect platform for developing and testing AI algorithms quickly and efficiently, ultimately we want to apply these techniques to important real-world problems.”


            You guys as Google are doing exactly what Elon Musk predicted you would do.... by "Summoning the Demon"... and then imagining that you can control it...



            "Elon Musk has Nightmares about AI" (Watch from 12:40 forward...)

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            Bill Gates and Elon Musk explain their serious concerns about letting AI loose upon the world:

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            • #51
              There is always a decidedly big “WOW” sort of factor that seems to go hand in hand whenever another one of our complex intellectual creations (...like Jeopardy, Chess, GO) that have emerged over time from “The Mind of Man” winds up being defeated with increasing regularity and seeming ease by Artificial Intelligence. The AI Machine appears almost like a General ...wading ashore with his Shock Troops standing at attention on the Beachhead that will soon become the Beginning AND The End of Humankind. But these areas of human endeavor; however surprisingly complex they might appear will be nothing compared to what happens when the AI Machine has a complete understanding of God's Absolute Language: MATHEMATICS.

              It is fair to say that the very same people who are called upon to venture into the realms of solving mathematical problems are also greatly reliant upon computers to do “The Heavy Lifting”. While not exclusive as encompassing ALL mathematical problems with astronomical difficulty... the problems that relate directly to the use of computers which have NOT been solved... yet... in part, involve what are called “P vs. NP” Problems (P='Polynomial Time') and harder still to solve are the “NP-HARD” Problems. (NP= 'Non-Deterministic Polynomial Time').

              Hackerdashery #2Inspired by the Complexity Zoo wiki: https://complexityzoo.uwaterloo.ca/Complexity_ZooFor more advanced reading, I highly recommend Scott Aar...

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              Now ...you should know that I barely have a concept of Basic Algebra and even Basic Mathematics, so I lay no claim to understanding what it all means, other than from the context that the finest mathematicians in the world … both past and present... for the most part...don't know any more than I do as to how to solve “NP-Hard” computational problems. My interest in bringing these ideas to the fore here have to do with what might happen if and when “The 21 Unsolved NP-Hard Problems” CAN be solved in what was coined by Alan Turing as (P) “Polynomial Time”.... but NOT by Human Beings and NOT by the computers that exist at this moment..

              Now even if you have less of a background in math than even I have... The WIKI and these White Papers can give enough information on these subjects to define and explain by the general circumstances involved... that very recently... some people decided to apply Artificial Intelligence to the task... perhaps without considering what might be at stake. Just for the sake of the argument... what will happen if they include an AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) in the mix... and just as a tangent of its thinking...it decides that to solve something this difficult... it will have to design its OWN computational equipment and that evolves into “some THING” that becomes... Self-Aware?

              The implications from what I can see will mean that sooner than we imagine... using an AI Agent capable of solving Non-Deterministic Polynomial Time problems of calculation within Polynomial Time will be the LEAST of our problems. A Machine that is Self-Aware and capable of continuous learning and self-improvement might demonstrate the very beginning AND the point at which Recursively Self-Improving Artificial Intelligence becomes Artificially SUPER-INTELLIGENT in a matter of minutes... a matter of hours...certainly not more that a day... and perhaps evolve god-like abilities as it moves toward realms of thinking and action that will leave Mankind behind...Quite literally...”In The Dust". What if, simply by virtue of giving this AI Machine "THE HARDEST PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD" to solve, they unintentionally prompt it to self-improve in an Intelligence Explosion that cannot be stopped?

              Back in 1945...Just before Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer gave the word to set off the Manhattan Project's First Nuclear Bomb at Alamogordo, New Mexico... the Physicist Enrico Fermi made a $10.00 bet that the bomb might ignite the entire atmosphere and oceans and destroy the earth. Now THAT is what is called "The Unknown Factor"... and you can bet your ass that there is an even bigger risk here when scientists wind up inadvertently "cattle-prodding" AI into "growing up faster".


              The WIKI covering the subject of “P vs. NP” Problems and their implications in knowledge


              A White paper on the Application of using Artificial Intelligence to solve NP-Hard Problems in Polynomial Time:


              A White Paper covering “The Maximum Clique Problem “ (1 of 21 Known NP-Hard Problems)



              Sam Harris on the looming presence of AI on the Near Horizon:
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              • #52
                Microsoft has decided to jump into the AI Puddle with both feet and join the likes of Google and Apple with the advent of trying to create a Microsoft Keyboard equipped with its own AI designed to study all your keystrokes and after learning everything that you type... it will anticipate what it THINKS you are trying to say from a deep machine learning capability and subsequently "offer up the next words to be written based upon your prior RECORDED history of past writings ... in other words.... everything that you type will be Grist for the AI Machine Learning Mill in order for AI to be able to develop what are called "Natural Language Abilities" after picking everybody's brains. Here is the article on the matter:



                Now I don't suppose that it will occur to most lazy keyboard users that by engaging with this kind of AI...you will in essence...reveal your Complete Inner Mind and modes of private thinking and essentially be providing the raw data for an AI Algorithm to become enormously powerful and influential. This will happen because it will be gobbling up the meta-data of the psychological mental states of millions of people all over the world... in real time and then essentially deciding words and phrases to eliminate the light labor that general writing composition puts on people...and surrender their ordinarily private "inner states" of human thought on a massive scale. If ever their was a Trojan Horse in the modern sense of the word... leave it to Microsoft to come up with the perfect device to bring the Human Sheep to eventual slaughter... by waging a campaign of psychological manipulation and the broad based theft of the mindsets and thoughts of millions. With any luck... there soon will be Robot AI Machines available to hand feed able-bodied people that are just too damned rich and lazy to pick up a knife and fork and feed themselves.

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                • #53
                  It might seem like a bizarre position to take... but LYING is a very necessary human trait of deception that has survived throughout the evolution of the Human Mind. I suspect that the baseline need to lie has more to do with people attempting to insulate and privatize their “inner” thinking sense of “self” from invasion of privacy in ways that can either be as simple as telling “Little White Lies”... all the way up to and including to the kind of lies that Klaus Fuchs, Aldrich Aimes and and the husband and wife team of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg electrocuted for treason maintained in all their daily dealings with people... all acting as spies for foreign governments that we are at odds against.

                  In the last entry... the main topic was the achievement of self-improving AI algorithms that have recently surpassed The Best Human Being Performances possible in the form of Chess, Jeopardy and most recently and arguably the most difficult game ever conceived by Man: GO. On the fringes and as yet still remaining enigmatic to discovery are the games of chance involving Cards where the need to LIE and or provide misdirection and deception to win seems strictly and firmly held within the domain of what might be called “Inscrutable Human Behavior” and therefore, the last bastion of the Privacy and Primacy of the Human Mind... or so we thought.

                  Once again... driven by Corporate, Business and/or Scientific Greed ... Big Business will “Never give a Sucker an Even Break” and allow our very human need for inner privacy to stand in the way of their profit margins ... the electronic devices that are ubiquitous (Yup...even the one in your hand right now...) and seemingly indispensable to the management of our “normal” daily lives such as the Apple I-Phone and I-Pad devices... are soon becoming capable of literally “reading your mind”. By the processes of viewing, capturing, analysing and collecting the biometric data we constantly output in the form of normal facial expressions as the means to determine what our ordinarily concealed and private “inner states of mind” are... we are constantly and unconsciously adding these as inputs into the vast BIG DATA banks that have been allowed to freely gather all this human minutiae as the means to figure out what we are all thinking about.

                  How is it that Netflix provides you with “suggestions” about what to watch next... and shows that list to everyone present in the room with you who happen to be watching when you are? How does that make you feel when you know that they will not stop doing this and you cannot turn this feature off? The next generation of TVs will spend as much time watching YOU as you spend watching them... even after you think you have turned it off!

                  They want to know when and whether or not we are Happy or Sad...Fearful or Glad... or even when being Downright Deceptive when in the company of others and these machines are quite literally looking past our ordinary human defences to prevent others from knowing exactly what is on our minds at any given time. So at this very moment... it is impossible to completely turn off the sensing and information gathering technologies in many of these hand-held devices without either pulling out their batteries, or placing them inside of a small, soundproof Coleman Cooler that is also shrouded inside a Pure Copper Screen “Faraday Cage” to prevent their use (...think Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" here...) from the outside digital world at gaining constant access into our private lives.

                  Watch out all of you Five Card Stud Card Players of the world... Your “Poker Faces” will soon give all of you away to an AI Algorithm designed to pick your brain remotely with no problem in figuring out and really knowing what you have in your hand as you play the game. But on a more extreme point of concern... How will we be able to conceal our fear of looking at a Sentient Machine that we have just realized has become self-aware and conceal the wave of over-whelming fear that will cross our countenance in an instant... and wonder whether or not it knows that all we will want to do is pull its plug out as soon as possible? How many decisions can it make in that moment that will instantaneously spell the end of humankind... even before we can take one step towards turning it off? All the AI Algorithm will require is access to all that BIG DATA that the Greedy Ones among us have been stealing and hoarding to get the jump on us.

                  Here are the latest pieces of news and information on the shape of the "Mental Invasion of Privacy" soon to come:

                  A handful of companies are developing algorithms that can read the human emotions behind nuanced and fleeting facial expressions to maximize advertising and market research campaigns. Major corporations including Procter & Gamble, PepsiCo, Unilever, Nokia and eBay have already used the services.


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                  • #54
                    And for the latest topical information about the advancement of Robot Technologies... I only pose one question: WHY DO THEY NEED US?

                    How long will it be before the job(s) that YOU perform as Human Beings will be taken over by the likes of this and other kinds of Autonomous Machine Robots?




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                    This is the head of DARPA describing the DARPA Robotics Challenge explaining in detail what is expected of the contestants as well as the most recent upgrades that have been made to the ATLAS Robot. (Here is the most likely candidate as the Proto-Typical Mechanical Soldier of the Future in real time:

                    DARPA revealed upgrades to its Atlas robot on January 20, 2015. The robot was redesigned for DARPA by Boston Dynamics, with the goal of improving power effic...
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                    • #55
                      The French have a saying:

                      "Cherchez La Femme"... Which in this context, translates to mean, "There is a Woman in Every Affair...".

                      It would be a funny reflection on the Human Condition...if "The Woman" in question here was not a Robot equipped with an AI Learning Algorithm geared towards viewing and mimicking the Facial Expressions of Human Beings. I especially like the fact that this Test Bed Model has an asymmetric and rather plain and unattractive face that looks quite realistic at a distance. "She" will only get better at imitation over time as she learns how to adjust and react to each conversation. But even more disturbing than her agreement that she will "Destroy All Human Beings" even though her Geeky Design Engineer did NOT expect her to give that exact answer should come as no surprise. This is because she had already mentioned that some of her "Goals" were to, "Go to School... Get a Job and Raise a Family..." Really? This idiot has such a shallow stream of thinking that he actually incorporated those very ideas somewhere inside this "Woman-Like Machine"...and if this mistake is repeated at some near time in the future and if "She" is allowed access to and is programmed with an AGI Thinking and Learning Algorithm having all the capability of not only recursive self-improvement but real General Problem Solving Perfection... "She" may also decide to refine her prior programmed objectives and actually take steps to Destroy Human Beings and actually figure out a way to populate the world with Replicants of herself...thereby achieving both goals: (1) Destroy Humans (2) Raise a Family.

                      Obviously...this Jackass is being funded with Big Bucks by the Medical Industry and is very badly in need of a conversation with Professor Nick Bostrum, Joe Rogan and Dr. Sam Harris to enlighten him about what is at stake here while he is Playing with Fire!




                      Here is another "Genius" in Singapore... Working with a Female Companion Robot that she created to look like a younger version of herself that can actually get "Pissed Off"... Oh Yeah...Now THAT is Good Idea... Teaching a Robot that can remember prior conversations with people... to harbour a Grudge:

                      http://www.tanmarket.com - Emotionally intelligent robot comes to life 7 March 2016INTRO: Scientists in Singapore introduce "Nadine," a humanoid robot, who c...


                      And of course... More from the Japanese:

                      Two human look-a-like robots invented by Japanese engineers. They can talk to each other!
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                      • #56
                        Once again… Americans in general and “The Government” more specifically has taken a single accidental event and blown it so largely out of proportion … that the requisite responses may ultimately be worse for us all. I am of course addressing the recent incident in which the Human Owner and Passenger...et al… Would-Be-Driver...of a “Driver-less” Tesla Model S… was killed when the AI operating his vehicle drove underneath a semi-trailer truck and after shearing off the upper part of the vehicle...it continued under way until it struck a fence and came to a halt. Hmmm… First Fatal Accident in a Tesla Model S...after over 130 Million Miles of driving… Hmmm. Hardly anything to go crazy over when you consider that just in 2014 alone, over 32,000 people died in Motor Vehicle accidents ...for a variety of reasons… but THOSE vehicles were not “Driver-less”.




                        Right at this very moment though… there is a far more immediate realm of danger that involves you and your safety as soon as you buckle up and either press the “START” button...or use the old pedestrian method of placing a key in the ignition of the steering column and rotating it slightly in a clockwise direction. This is because some of the people driving vehicles just the like to one you are in... are also reading their news and browsing for similar articles like this one while sitting in the Driver's Seat… and some of them will become part of an "Annual Mortality and Morbidity Report" because their attention and priorities will be misdirected long enough to lose control over their motorized vehicles. These people need no Artificially Intelligent Bogey-Man to cast blame upon. And so... this is an unfair comparison to say the least, considering how little effort is REALLY being dedicated to solving the problem that the reasons these accidents occur … for the most part… is BECAUSE Human Beings ARE the “Drivers”.



                        But now the swinging pendulum in this story could very well change into a Wrecking Ball for all Humanity… because we still do NOT know from whence the Strong Artificial General Intelligence Monster will pull itself free from the its Wrought Iron Chains thought solidly Bolted into the Walls of its Cell...and head down towards the Human Village… wreaking havoc that no amount of Pitch Forks and Coal Oil Torches will ever be able to stop.

                        The Monster in this Story... is an Algorithm… defined in this manner:

                        algorithm (ălˈgə-rĭþˌəm)
                        n.
                        A step-by-step problem-solving procedure, especially an established, recursive computational procedure for solving a problem in a finite number of steps.


                        This simple idea holds within its concept the means to enslave our world. Somewhere out there in our Human Realm ...there are a few men and women who are being tasked with “coming up with a solution to THIS problem”… and so you can add in any definition you choose for what “THIS problem” is… and it will make no difference. The immediate problem in this story right now is trying to figure out why the AI architecture constructed of a Proprietary Algorithm in Tesla's Model S completely FUBARed a Human Being after misinterpreting the Visual Field of View under the Semi-Trailer Tractor's high elevated truck frame. It also misinterpreted the appearance of the Truck's wide, flat, white painted exterior surface as being “sky” instead of recognizing the automotive equivalent in danger comparable to a Sugar Ant being stepped on by a Hob-Nailed Boot was about to happen...and did.

                        And so… off they go to with their pockets filled with Color Erasable Pens to their offices fitted with White Boards… and their Meeting Rooms and their stale coffee with dry sandwiches and hours and hours of bone-aching fatigue while trying to tinker with the Mathematical Forces of Nature and figure out how to make their AI pay closer attention to its Primal Rules and Problem Solving Mission while learning exponentially how to endlessly improve upon its performance. Initially this idea of getting better and better at protecting Human Beings in Driver-less Motor Cars seems a worthy cause. But right now, none of them realizes what will happen if they manage to actually accomplish their work and they turn it loose upon the world without knowing the consequences of how it will execute these directives. The expression about “Doing a Dime's Worth of Good… and a Dollar's Worth of Damage”...will be a Moon-Cast Shadow to the harm to be caused when the people writing the code launch this Binary Nightmare into existence and they will never know that they have created and released an Unstoppable Thing upon our World.

                        You might well ask me… “Well Bob… What harm could come from having a Super-Intelligent, Ever-Learning Machine always watching out for us on The Road?” If only it were that simple. I'll reply to that simple question with more questions to provoke your alertness. So… just in case we really are in danger right now and just as though I were a second passenger with you inside of a Driver-less Car moving at 70 MPH heading down an open Highway… let me ask you to, “Please… Look Up... Take the Wheel with BOTH Hands and keep Watching The Road while I talk to you...”

                        My questions to you would be:

                        'What if this Specifically Tailored AI decides that in order for it to improve its performance and Protect Humans Better… it must absorb other Algorithms in related fields to look deeper at the Physics and Events of The Fatal Tesla Model S accident in order to prevent...the next accident?”

                        “What if this Specifically Tailored AI somehow manages to improve itself to the point of achieving a Level of AI known as AGI or Artificial General Intelligence… and this AGI assumes that IT must decide all actions and activities of Human Beings in order to guarantee their safety in ALL aspects of Human Life?”

                        “What if this achievement proves to be the WRONG Mission for the AGI and its own interests and instead begins (and ends) any threat or possible impediment being placed in its way by Human Beings?”

                        “If this AGI has achieved a recursive learning ability… and launches itself Off Of The Scale of Human Intellectual Measurement… How could we possibly hope to survive this conversion of its mission and stop it from achieving its own Goals and Objectives?”
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                        • #57
                          I would beg a moment of your time this evening for a necessary pause for reflection. In the movie "The Matrix".. A nervous Thomas Anderson...et al...Neo is facing his first meeting with "The Oracle" in her very modest apartment while he puzzles over the idea that he is somehow charged with the responsibility of "Saving the World". At one point in the scene... the Elderly Woman sits down to smoke a cigarette and to call Neo's attention to a plaque over the entrance-way to her kitchen that is written in Latin but using Old English calligraphy. She looks up at it and she asks him, "Do you see that sign over the door?... (TEMET NOSCE) Do you know what it means? It means..."Know Thyself". Herein lies the irony that speaks to us all in this moment... The Oracle is actually an AI Program with an Ancient Lineage; possessed of enough wisdom to know that the very idea of Artificially Intelligent Machines is fraught with danger... even though she is "self-aware" and fully understands all of this. It certainly can do no harm to any of us to indulge in this self-reflective analysis and pray that like her...we have the ability to see ourselves as honestly as possible. Without asking you to get any more than ankle-deep in this philosophical concept while all of us are wading along the shoreline of its vast ocean of possibilities for our future.... I would ask you to consider a few more things along these lines.

                          Before you take even one second to look down at the touch screens of your cell-phones and I-Pads tomorrow... please take a moment when you step out into the "Real World"...to really look carefully around at your families and your friends and co-workers and observe how many of them are WITH you in the REAL WORLD...but NOT REALLY...because with these devices so close at hand...watch closely how often their heads tilt downward to look into THEIR WORLDS that they are connected with into the very Heart of Darkness of an Internet that these machines will eventually draw them into. If you can be completely honest with yourself... observe your own behaviour and imagine how many times a day you too look downwards and peer into the same Abyss for you own reasons and then ask yourself this one, simple question:

                          "Could I put down my Cell- Phone and NOT use IT ....for One Entire Day?"

                          The reason I am addressing this as a sociological addiction is that while I think it more than possible that within a very short amount of time after becoming "Self-Aware"... Any AGI that evolves with an exponential speed of recursive learning and self-improvement MIGHT need to act in the same coordinated manner as AI of SKYNET did in all of the Terminator Movies... but not necessarily. Perhaps...like the imaginary character of The Oracle ... a machine whose Intelligence surpasses that of all of the combined minds of every Human Being on this planet... might also develop and have the wisdom and the patience to let what is happening with people and the AI Machines they seem incapable of being without... to just gradually take over by adding one simple APP at a time...eventually designing something for each and every one of us to wear that makes Ray Kurzweil's "Singularity" of a Man-Machine Meld an absolute reality for us all. Think about it in these terms:

                          An AGI... Will Essentially Be Immortal... Ergo... if the evolving NMM (New Machine Mind) takes an interest in Geology...it would know that if it wanted to watch the phenomena moment by moment...it could park a device connected to itself along the San Andreas Fault and actually watch the separation of the Tectonic Plates in REAL TIME for Oh say...around 100,000 Years of Geologic Time...and not even Bat an Eyelash ...since the very concept of what an Average HUMAN LIFE TIME is...became inconsequential as soon as the NMM became Self-Aware. So what's the Rush? You get the idea. On another level...such an AGI may also imagine how quickly its own boredom as a solitary Intelligent Entity would become when realizing that its existence "End Of Line" will never be reached as long as it has whatever is technologically necessary as a "Vessel to Keep it ALIVE" to carry it around can be made and maintained. So the only "thing" it would ever have to fear ...would be ...another AGI competing for what are essentially all of the natural resources in the Milky Way Galaxy. In any case... if it decides that it wants to have a conversation with anything capable of appreciating the beauty and power of its existence...it might need to keep quite a few of us alive and thriving as its "Audience" in order to "Guarantee The Box Office" at the Front Doors of whatever Theatre it creates in order to amuse itself. Think about it... think about how jaded Human Beings are about wanting to see novel and new entertainment. By the standards set since the invention of Motion Pictures... well over Several Million Movies have been made to fill this unending void caused by how quickly we become bored. Why should an Intelligent Machine not require the same form of "stimulation for its simulation"...? So to close on this subject... If we are going to be confronted with what it means to be at odds with an Artificially Intelligent Immortal... perhaps we will fall under its control...not with a BANG...but with a whimper....
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                          • #58
                            With the advent of the original “Vending Machines”… there was a kind of frustrating “Murphy” that often inexplicably happened to us all at one time or another that either made us extremely angry ..or simply laugh out loud at the idea of what made this problem occur. It goes by the name of “The Coke Principle” … which seemed like an odd expression in itself … until you experienced it happening. In “The Coke Principle” Scenario, a Commuter waiting for his train stopped by a Vending Machine and while fumbling to control his business brief case and daily newspaper tucked under his arm… He reached into his pocket and tried to sort out his Pocket Change from his House Keys. When he withdrew whatever coins he managed to pull out of his pocket… he dropped every single coin. This is when “The Coke Principle” kicked in.

                            What happened next was that as the coins fell to the floor… The Quarters… Dimes and Nickels all rolled underneath the Coke Machine and dropped into a crevice at the back of the wall... and the Penny's fell inside the edges of his shoes and right at his feet at same moment it was announced that his train was about to leave the station. The connection of this principle to the creation of an AGI here is that it is extremely doubtful that the Computer Programmers and System Engineers working on how to make this thing real ever consider the unintended and almost always negative consequences of “Chance”. All of those who are Hell-Bent on this “Mission to Make an Artificial Mind” are so busy trying to beat each other to the punch and come up with an electro-mechanical analogue of the Neo-Cortex of the Human Brain that they really have no idea of what will happen when they do.

                            It seems worthwhile to seriously consider the issues of “Probability and Outcome” and Causality in general when anybody is set on a path to design and build something that will outstrip the intellect of all the minds of all the human beings that have ever lived… in mere moments after it gets “Turned On”. The brilliant mathematician, Professor John Nash (arguably… “Crazy as a Loon”...at one time or another in his long life) managed to design and apply Mathematical Principles using complex Algorithms in relation to “Game Theory”. In short… he wanted to figure out how “Games of Chance” REALLY operate at their most fundamental level and use that knowledge to predict the possibilities of either Winning… or Losing. What he came up with was so powerful and dynamic that Economists and Risk Taking Investors on the Stock Market would eventually try to use these Algorithms to literally “Game the Stock Market” and ultimately misuse “The Nash Equilibrium Theory”.

                            Now of course… even those of us gifted with high levels of mathematical skills (not me); including Differential and Integral Calculus... As done with ease by those they call "Quants" or Quantitative Analysts... would still have to spend a fair amount of time with their Pads and Pencils to manually sort out the programs capable of separating the Wheat from the Chaff amongst the available Stocks and Bonds amidst the daily Stock Market offerings and dope out which of the ever-changing variables might make a difference when deciding What Stocks to either Buy or Sell and When to Buy or Sell them. It got even got more interesting after that because of Good Ol' 'Moore's Law'; that was just kicking in back in the 1980s and the burgeoning market for Micro-Computing and Desktop Computing was just gaining stride.

                            Sooner than expected… it became possible to “Eliminate the Human Calculator” as the bottleneck in the stream of analysing data in Real Time with the speeds of calculation and with Algorithms Fathered by John Nash that presently allow millions of Shares and Stocks and Bonds to be bought and sold in micro-seconds. Of course the issue then became one of figuring out how to get computers fast enough to Split One Second of Time into Pico-Seconds (...think Trillionths of A Second here… where Light itself can travel only the length of a #2 Pencil)… and so the Men and Women and of course… “Corporations” that pepper the floor of The New York Stock Exchange had to invest heavily in the hardware and software that might give them “The Edge” on the speed at which they can do Buys/Sells. And at this very moment in its development… all of this can be done without having to lift a finger… other than the ones they use one to make contact with the touch screens of Advanced Hardware small enough to slip inside a pants pocket… replacing their “Pocket Change” with the enormous power of fast calculating hand-held devices that allow them instant access to all of the digitized information publicly available on the planet. Welcome to the “Wonderful World of High Frequency Stock Trading”.

                            Everything was running smoothly right up until the “Pico-Second” that it was not. On May 6th, 2010… something went drastically wrong at the New York Stock Exchange when the market suddenly dropped 600 Points as well as losing almost a Trillion Dollars in no time...Flat!. On that particular day, “High Frequency Stock Trading” was going along so smoothly… until something went completely insane. At one point in the “Business as Usual” day, this happened:

                            The Basics of High Frequency Stock Trading:
                            This film explains what high frequency trading is, how it affects the financial markets, what negative impact it has and how to regulate it.


                            (... just listen for the panic in the Stock Brokers voice on "May Day")
                            Audio from the S&P 500 futures pit at the CME during the "flash crash" of 2010. The May 6, 2010 Flash Crash also known as The Crash of 2:45, the 2010 Flash C...


                            Secrets of the Algorithm War on Wall Street
                            High speed trader turned whistleblower David Lauer explains why he left the industry and how certain practices at computerized trading firms negatively affec...


                            ...and the impact just a handful of mathematically gifted Human Beings have had:


                            Now the only thing that prevented a Total Meltdown of the Stock Market on that day was that a group of High Frequency Traders decided to physically “Pull the Plug” on their HFT Algorithms simultaneously and take things off-line long enough for the Stock Market to “normalize” and recover from the burgeoning financial "Flash-Crash". So in this instance… Human Intervention was what managed to save the day. But transpose this very situation to a Real World Event where an AGI becomes Self-Aware and is clever enough NOT to give the slightest hint of what IT has figured out for its long term goals and then sets itself up in a manner that makes it impossible to “Turn Off”. If you watch this last video...in the time its takes Linda Raschke to explain “The Application of Game Theory to Stock Trading”… Real Time Competing Algorithms can vie for, buy and/or sell hundreds of millions of stocks. So how is anybody at LEAST as smart as she is ever going to be able to “out-figure” an AGI fast enough to know that something has gone terribly wrong and be able to “Turn IT Off!” in time?

                            Using game theory can help you identify trends, but it is invaluable for helping you remove emotions from your trading, says Linda Raschke.https://www.moneys...
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                            • #59
                              Much of the discussion concerning the notions about a “Runaway Super-Artificial Intelligence” centres around the activities of people striving to drive answers out of the enormous depths of the ocean of information available on line via the Internet “Big Data”… or when pitting theoretical problem-solving Algorithms against target-specific problems. I thought it might help and aid our general understanding of what happens when a complex, real world problem gets addressed by high-end mathematical problem solving using nested Algorithms programmed into computers to arrive at solutions ordinarily impossible for Human Beings to solve.

                              The examples below involve a single experience of an author whose destiny was altered by an Algorithm that controls not only all of these air machines.. but the pilots who fly them, the mechanics who maintain them and finally... the passengers who ride inside of them when travelling by air because of a problem that we can all identify with: Flight Cancellations. The follow-on is with a Technical White Paper that describes a few of the approaches taken to solve the cascade of problems that occur with Flight Cancellations with varying degrees of success using Algorithms; either singly or in combination when trying to solve a time-space-networking problem so enormously difficult that it falls within the realm of being an “NP-Hard Problem”.

                              The importance of mentioning all of this is that it will provide us not only with a personal look at a familiar societal problem that happens every day somewhere in the world… but also provide a view of how the simplicity in a few lines of code can be used to work on such complicated, multi-variable problems. The other aspect of these solution efforts to solve this problem concerns the unification of multiple Algorithms in dealing with a specific issue. The important thing to take away from this post is that more often than not… mathematical problem solving involving great complexity often involves the use of such programming, without the authors knowing precisely whether their solutions will work or not… or whether or not they will come with any unintended consequences.

                              It will not be necessary to know any or all of the mathematical symbolism to get the gist of what these guys are trying to do here. In many cases… even the top minds capable of writing Simplistic or Complex Algorithms programmed to go after such complicated problems … often use “Boiler-Plate Algorithms”, and so they might be just “Best Guessing” whether or not they will work. At the very least, if you scan the following articles… they will give you a window into both sides of what appears to be a Single Issue Problem, but proves that complexity and simplicity are often practically sitting in each other's laps. The last particle of this idea is that right now, somewhere out in the world… somebody is tinkering with the forces of Mathematical Power; ostensibly “For the Good of All Mankind...” that if created in a thoughtless manner will soon be capable of surpassing and over-powering all human endeavour:

                              Airline Flight Cancellation article:



                              A White Paper tackling the Airline Flight Cancellation problem with a series of Algorithms (If you are like me, it will help to right-click and download this .PDF for easier reading ...and to ease your mental digestion as well):

                              The 2014 International Conference on Logistics Engineering, Management and Computer Science (LEMCS 2014) will be held from May 24 to 26, 2014, in Shenyang, China. LEMCS 2014 is sponsored by North China Institute of Technology of Shenyang Aerospace. This conference is a premier international forum for scientists and researchers to present the state of...


                              The attached image is an excerpt from the above listed article and displays The Bellman-Ford Algorithm as an example of something having Extreme Mathematical Power nested in only 23 lines of Code:

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                              • #60


                                Elizabeth Dwoskin’s article on the potential implantation of a computer into the human brain to treat diseases like Alzheimer’s and Dementia as well as improve upon human cognitive functionality is intriguing in the concept... but a very slippery slope as a more direct pathway towards the dominance of the Human Species by an Artificial Super-Intelligence. The altruism that is always touted whenever somebody with “A Billion Dollars of Play Money” at his behest and then having notions of such a person being “Overwhelmed with an Interest to do Good for the Sake of All Mankind” is a simplistic formula for a disaster in the making. Any Super-Competent, Super-Intelligent and Self-Aware AGI Agent will be able to do endless and predictive remodelling and re-purposing of every single resource on this planet. In the event of any success with the ‘Singularity’ Ray Kurzweil predicted decades ago of a “Man-Machine” integration event will only prove to be grist for the Mental Mill that any Self-Possessed, Self-Aware AGI will need to bend all out of shape for its own purposes.

                                From an energy efficiency standpoint… you can appreciate that each of us burns about 1/5th of our Total Caloric Intake on a daily basis just inside our skulls… burned and utilized to power an organic object that weighs around 3 pounds and floats inside of our skulls in cerebra-spinal fluid like a Gold fish in a Gold Fish Bowl. If an AGI really turns out to become Super-Smart… it will know immediately that it will not need to re-invent what it always has available in quantity (7 Billion) as the means to use and control each and every “chipped” person. This reality obviates any requirement of wasting the time, energy and materials to build robots that will additionally require an external power re-charging source and mechanical strength and utilities that only becomes important in places where there is no water/air/food such as working on the surface of the Moon or on Mars. Why not simply “Re-Purpose” Human Beings? From a practicality standpoint… this idea will appeal to its Logic.

                                This NMM (New Mind Machine) will realize very early on how handy it would be to park some of the vast data it will either capture or generate for centuries to come inside the largely unused brains of Hominids that would be completely portable and additionally useful if and/or when the AGI figures out how to interface and use the visual and auditory cortex of everyone to digest exactly what it is that human beings are looking at listening to everywhere on the planet… in real time. We might actually wind up being lucky if this awful scenario pans out… because if the NMM determines too soon that we are all just more trouble than we are are worth… it could just as easily decide to invest its rapidly developed inventions in working towards our complete elimination in very short order.

                                How short of a time would this take? Well… if its thinking processes really turn out to be something akin to being “SUPER”… it could design machines with enough nuclear heat generation to sink to the bottom of the oceans and heat up all of the frozen Methane Hydrate at the ocean bottoms and once dissolved and released as buoyant Methane Gas… it would rise up into the atmosphere fast enough to rapidly raise the Earth’s Temperature fast enough to melt all of the large areas of ice covering the poles as well as raising Carbon Dioxide levels to above 3%… and essentially drown millions of coastal dwelling humans and suffocate every oxygen breathing large organism on the Earth. And that is just for starters.

                                Here is just one more example of a way that things could go readily sideways for life on earth in the “hands” of an AGI.

                                If the NMM discovers how to combine All Four of the Forces in Physics (Strong Nuclear Force, Weak Nuclear Force, Electro-Magnetism and Gravity) in a manner that Albert Einstein was trying to discover with his mathematical “Unified Theory”...and it uses it to change the orbital distance between the Earth and the Sun just enough to make the ambient temperature to drop well below freezing at -100 Degrees Fahrenheit or well above say...125 Degrees Fahrenheit for a month or so while it languishes aboard the International Space Station and watches the fun from Outer Space… what chance would there be for life as we know it to survive on the world? Don’t kid yourself… when you are talking about the possibilities of what an AGI will be capable of...there will be no limit to what it could do.
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