Time to go Fast

[FastZ34Lumina5]

Ok time to cut to the chase. I just picked Up a 1993 Z34 Lumina today. I have always talked about building a drag car. And always wanted to make it a Z34 lumina. I also have a 2000 Lumina with a good running 3100 and a good tranny behind it. I want to put the 3100 in the Z34. To tell the truth I want to beat my friends EVO, what do I have to do??????????

[robertisaar]

boost. lots of it. and a six speed. and stickerz.

[pocket-rocket]

And lotsa wax. Wax makes the paint so slick air will glide right over it. It will be slicker than snot on glass

[FastZ34Lumina5]

HA HA HA HA HA. come on he only ran 11.29 @ 119mph. so in another words get another car with a bigger motor? That 3100 only has 90000 miles on it. Its a shame it runs so nice. Would be a great motor to start with because of that. I see that there is alot of parts around for them motors.

[SuzukiGhostRider]

Dude, you do know the 3.4 TC DOHC puts out 210 hp stock and the 3100 (2000+) puts out 175 stock right? Why in the world would you want to downgrade?

[asylummotorsports]

Rodney's 3500 turbo intercooled Beretta ran 119 mph with NO traction!

Just a thought.

[[ChaosweaveR]]

Dude, you do know the 3.4 TC DOHC puts out 210 hp stock and the 3100 (2000+) puts out 175 stock right? Why in the world would you want to downgrade?

That motor is usually unreliable, but anything, an LX9 or even a hybrid LA1/LX9 motor would hold up better to boost than the DOHC motor will.

Or if you have the funds, why not stuff a 3.6L DI motor in there from a newer Malibu/Aura? But that might need a lot of fab work, and might be a wiring nightmare. But hell, it's a damn potent motor, that's for sure.

[pocket-rocket]

That motor is usually unreliable, but anything, an LX9 or even a hybrid LA1/LX9 motor would hold up better to boost than the DOHC motor will.

Your first statement is typical of a pushrod guy who has no background with a DOHC. It is no less reliable than any other engine made by GM. Where it gets its bad rap is from people who buy a car with one in it that was never maintained. Any engine that has had a lack of proper maintenance will be unreliable. Do you know how many 3x00's I've been brought with problems that came from lack of maintenance? Way more than LQ1s, but that doesn't make me say that 3x00 are unreliable engines... Also your boost statement lacks any sort of proof. Look up timg, RedZMonte just to name a couple on here that have been running boost on an LQ1 (Shanes is even completely stock besides the things needed for boost like injectors). Before Tim and Shane boosted their cars there was Matt on one of the Fiero forums that has an LQ1 with a stock bottom end pushing over 3xxhp to the tires.


On the other hand, I do agree with the 3.6DI suggestion. That engine is pure win.


Sorry for the abrasiveness in my post, but I get tired of seeing people bash an engine they have no experience with just because everyone they heard talk about it has nothing good to say about it. i don't see whats so bad about having to change a timing belt every so often either, which is another pushrod guys big gripe.

[robertisaar]

On the other hand, I do agree with the 3.6DI suggestion. That engine is pure win.

it is a good idea of the future of the 60V6 engine. i like the look of the future...

i don't see whats so bad about having to change a timing belt every so often either, which is another pushrod guys big gripe.

...so long as it doesn't include a timing belt!

it actually doesn't look to be too bad according to the procedure from alldata, but a good long-life chain setup would have fixed a LOT of the gripe us OHV guys have.

[RedZMonte]

This will decimate all after we put about fifteen grand or more under the hood. If we have to, overnight some parts from Japan.

Harry stocks all the parts you need.... T66 Turbo and NAWZ.... 2 TANKS!



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[pocket-rocket]

I wanted to smack him after he crunched the front bumper of that Lightning...

[[ChaosweaveR]]

Your first statement is typical of a pushrod guy who has no background with a DOHC. It is no less reliable than any other engine made by GM. Where it gets its bad rap is from people who buy a car with one in it that was never maintained. Any engine that has had a lack of proper maintenance will be unreliable. Do you know how many 3x00's I've been brought with problems that came from lack of maintenance? Way more than LQ1s, but that doesn't make me say that 3x00 are unreliable engines... Also your boost statement lacks any sort of proof. Look up timg, RedZMonte just to name a couple on here that have been running boost on an LQ1 (Shanes is even completely stock besides the things needed for boost like injectors). Before Tim and Shane boosted their cars there was Matt on one of the Fiero forums that has an LQ1 with a stock bottom end pushing over 3xxhp to the tires.

Well, you got me there. I'm not too familiar with the LQ1 much. I mean, I have worked on a few in terms of tune ups, and other basic things, but I'll admit, I've never seen one modified in a big manner. I do know plenty of the pushrod motors, but hey, that's why I'm here, expanding my own knowledge of GM V6 power.

On the other hand, I do agree with the 3.6DI suggestion. That engine is pure win.

Indeed. Especially in the Camaro. While I find the new Camaro ugly as sin, I love the V6 potential it has. Linginfelter (spelling) already has a supercharger kit for it, and there's tongtube headers already out there for the motor as well, and it sounds like pure secks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDqU-mHeE70

Another vid, same headers, only with full 2.5" cat back exhaust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_YDYOKGVLk

And no offense taken in your tone. I'm a nubcake on here, and I kinda expected that. I tend to be an opinionated arsehole sometimes, so I take take it too. lol

[pocket-rocket]

I'm glad you didn't take offense. It just gets my goat when people stereotype the LQ1 because some moron bought one and never took care of it.

I actually like the 2010 Camaro. I think that GM did a way better job of it than Ford did with the Mustang and Dodge did with any of their cars. I would love to get a hold of one of those engines, though. As much as I like my LQ1's, I would have to drop them in a heart beat for the 3.6DI.

Most haven't gone too extreme with the LQ1 due to lack of an aftermarket, but those that have have seen some good results.

[FastZ34Lumina5]

IDK guys. I have a ton of DOHC part laying around. I still have 2 runing motors. But like what was said I dont really see any parts that you would need to build power without putting nawz or boost on it. Face it you caint by Cams without having them custom made. Then you have to by 4 of them. IDK I am thinking a pushrod is better lots more parts out there I think. Belive me I love my Z34 that I have now with the DOHC. I went 14.58 @ 94mph. But it just sceems to me that there is more power with a pushrod motor.

[pocket-rocket]

Well, yes and no. Pushrods > DOHC in terms of aftermarket which is where the pushrods pwn DOHC in power. Stock vs stock, DOHC > pushrods and modification vs modifications it is the same way because of how well the DOHC can breath (just look at the size of the exhaust manifolds). But as far as being able to buy off the shelf to put together one sweet engine, yes, the pushrods have it.