converting a GTP to Z34-possible?

[no_doz]

well from the looks of it no one around here has any idea about the LQ1 which has made the GTP in the garage more likely of a project candidate than anything since everyone around here seems to think its just like any other grand prix since its not supercharged or turbo, & a thought crossed my mind today.

with the exception of the rear taillights & such, would lumina fenders/front end fit on it (94 GTP)? if so ill say screw it and keep it because ive always wanted a Z34, & since the engine & trans is there, the only thing missing is the looks.

im sure there are going to be grand prix lovers on here that are going to be pissed at the mere though of this, but im sorry, i dont like grand prix's unless they are original TGP's.

and yes i do realize that this wouldnt actually be a Z34 since the title says Grand Prix, but if it looks & drives like one i dont give a shit what the title says!!!

thanks guys.

[pocket-rocket]

External sheet metal is different between the cars. Heck, even the doors won't fit (but door internals will swap over). Look at things like rear side window shapes, door pillar angle (where the handle that always breaks at the worst possible time is) and stuff like that. Structurally, yeah. Things would swap over (sub-frames, knuckles, brake components and the like), but as far as external sheet metal goes, I really doubt it. Interior stuff swaps over. Michael from FFP (bowtiekid79?) bought the interior from the 92 GTP parts car Ben and I had a long time ago, making his 92 Z34 interior have full power seats, a DIC and I believe the console on the ceiling above the mirror. He didn't have to do a whole lot, IIRC. Just small stuff like power wires for the seats, and a wire to the ALDL plug for the DIC to get information.

[no_doz]

im really only worried about the outward appearance of it, i dont care about the taillights really, but the front bumper/hood/front fenders just dont look the same.

if i could get that looking like a z34 & get all that grated looking trim like the cutlasses have-removed or covered up, id be thrilled to keep the car & get it going.

from the side & front id like it to look like a Z34, other than that everything can stay the same, because if i remove all the pontiac/gtp labeling & someone sees the interior & says:

"HOLY CRAP THIS ISNT Z, ITS A GTP!!" im not going to argue, im just gonna start dishing out props & asking questions :P

[SofaKingWeToddDid]

i think it would be sweet! the ONLY thing i hate about my lumina is the cheap ass interior!! i say try it, do it in a junkyard and see if it fits!! i bet the body lines wont match up, but i bet it does bolt right on. (for the most part)

[no_doz]

i actually have a 2 door lumina that looks about just like one, so i may go do some test fitting sometime over the next few days.

my hood lacks the hood vents but im sure i can find a Z hood

i was considering a full motor/trans swap from the GTP to my lumina but considering i completely lost the title before it was transferred fully into my name, & would have to track the guy down 2 hours from here to -maybe- get another one, it may be easier to just make the GTP look like one & let the engine do the rest of the talking.

[pocket-rocket]

If it's been on your property for a month, file for an abandoned title.

[no_doz]

well i bought it, came home & had a big family catastrophy with both mine & my girlfriends, & somehow the damned title went missing before i could get it transfered at the BMV, then i drove it around for a few months on another cars tags (one that i got rid of), using this & the fact that people will untransferred titles dont tend to keep them in their car, i got a few months of driving out of it before it got parked.

i assumed at some point that i would have found the title, i havent. i also have no way to locate the guy whos name the title is still in, so would that whole abandoned title thing really cut it?

[robertisaar]

possibly, and if not, then you might be able to register it anyway if they have the last known address of the person you bought it from...

[no_doz]

i dont, i dont have any emails or anything, it was all done over the phone & the directions to his house are long gone.

sad stuff, i like never see 2 door 3.1 luminas, i just see loads of the 4 door ones.

[SofaKingWeToddDid]

what does a title do for you guys down there?? up in canada ive gotten insurance and registration (everything you need to legally drive with a valid license) with a bill of sale written on a napkin!! in crayon!!
i once got a car that was traded for a half a pickup converted to a trailer (the car was found at an abandoned apartment building) it was my first car ever, insured and reged with a bill of sale written on an envelope... if the car turns out to be stolen, they find you later. lol

[no_doz]

thats awesome-here you have to have a title to do anything. im not sure about the abandoned vehicle policy though.

[pocket-rocket]

Well call the DMV and tell them your situation. I'm sure they will tell you what you need to do. I wouldn't doubt if they have an officer come out and run the VIN to make sure it's not stolen and have him sign an affidavit for you that you could use to get an abandoned title for it, legally making it your car (even though it already is).

[no_doz]

at this point it is unnecessary since the motors coming out for the wrangler & the fenders/headlights/front bumper/ etc... will be taken for the GTP conversion.

i appreciate your help though, if things hadnt worked out the way they did i would just get the title & get it fixed but seeing as im going to convert the GTP into the Z34 ive always wanted (Number 3 on the list behind the S7 & Syclone which i wont be getting...) this lumina will serve its purpose.

when im done getting the engine/wiring harness/exterior parts ill make sure i give it to someone who needs it because id hate to see a good lumina euro coupe body get scrapped.

the sad part is im not sure if its a 91 or 90 anymore, ill have to check on the body because i certainly dont have a title to check! :P im going to assume since i posted it in my sig the night i got it, that it is in fact a 91, making my engine swap title a liar. lol

[robertisaar]

S7? Saleen!?!?

and no_doz: the year is in the VIN.....

[pocket-rocket]

at this point it is unnecessary since the motors coming out for the wrangler & the fenders/headlights/front bumper/ etc... will be taken for the GTP conversion.

i appreciate your help though, if things hadnt worked out the way they did i would just get the title & get it fixed but seeing as im going to convert the GTP into the Z34 ive always wanted (Number 3 on the list behind the S7 & Syclone which i wont be getting...) this lumina will serve its purpose.

when im done getting the engine/wiring harness/exterior parts ill make sure i give it to someone who needs it because id hate to see a good lumina euro coupe body get scrapped.

the sad part is im not sure if its a 91 or 90 anymore, ill have to check on the body because i certainly dont have a title to check! :P im going to assume since i posted it in my sig the night i got it, that it is in fact a 91, making my engine swap title a liar. lol

I think I have officially given up on you... You change your mind more then my wife does outfits before going to the grocery store (and that is a lot). Follow through much?