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  • I never doubted 9/11 tragedy until I watched this;

    This is the most valid challenge to the authenticity of 9/11 I have ever seen (and the only one). I know governments do engage in malfeasance, but with what is put forth in this documentary using documented facts, in addition to the plane crash investigations (Air Emergency) I've watched on National Geographic and Discovery channel, as well as my vast general knowledge, there is no way I could deny the implication in this documentary and be respected as a reasonably intelligent human being by someone who unquestionably is (modesty).

    Titled "loose change"

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    It has been shrouded in doubt since it was aired on TV. That video does state facts that are true. But ignorant people will continue to believe what the mass media tells them. I have no doubt high levels of government has knowledge of the event and possibly were involved or turned a blind eye to it. Maybe they were paid off or threatened who knows. This even may go down in history with the Kennedy Assassination and The Area 51 Crash Landings. But things are different today with the freedom of information on the internet and ease of communication throughout the world we might get to the bottom of it.
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      You guys in the states should be pushing congress to pass something similar to Canada's Freedom of Information act. Preferably retroactive for situations like 9/11 to be properly resolved although I'm sure any incriminating paperwork was or will be destroyed before such a thing passes.
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        Originally posted by Joseph Upson View Post
        This is the most valid challenge to the authenticity of 9/11 I have ever seen (and the only one). I know governments do engage in malfeasance, but with what is put forth in this documentary using documented facts, in addition to the plane crash investigations (Air Emergency) I've watched on National Geographic and Discovery channel, as well as my vast general knowledge, there is no way I could deny the implication in this documentary and be respected as a reasonably intelligent human being by someone who unquestionably is (modesty).

        Titled "loose change"

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE

        I can't believe you guys give any credit to this film. It is completely false and made up by a group of guys only looking for attention. Please go through all the different parts of this series.

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        • #5
          Maybe so. But the fact are true about the melting point of steel vs the heat of the fire. Why did the towers fall? No other buildings have fallen because of fire. Let alone implode and fall right to the ground. Maybe if just the top of the building caved in or possibly fell apart it would be caused by the plane. Why did the third tower implode when it was never even hit. Steel buildings would not implode into pieces like they did the may bend and fall apart but not like that.
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          • #6
            You don't need steel to melt to make it fail. Heat it up to only half of it's melting point (which jet fuel can reach) and it will distort and fail. When a steel beam heats up, it's ends want to expand out. When it can't do that the center of the beam will start to sag, causing anything attached to it to fail. Never mind the fact that those 2 buildings were unique in there constuction. They were nothing like a traditional skyscraper in construction. Basically, in layman's terms, the frame of those buildings were on the outside of each floor, not internal like traditional buildings. Once the supports holding those few floors where the fire was failed, you had all the weight from the above floors crashing down on the following floor. Overloading that floor's supports and making them fail. This happened in both buildings until they were levelled.

            Tower 7 fell due to severe damage from the twin towers falling and a fire that started inside of it that raged for hours.



            I understand that people are very upset over 9/11 but making up conspiracy theories only tarnishes the memory of those who lost their lives. If you want to be upset at something, direct it at our retarded president. He decided that Iraq was more important than finding Osama Bin Laden and bringing him to justice.
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              Want to speculate more on topics like this?
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              • #8
                I haven't watched the video and I can't so I really can't give an opinion on it.

                I was born in NY and was raised there for nearly 12 years and it pains me to watch it again and again. I couldn't even watch the movie World Trade Center without choking up. It just hits too close to home. That and the fact that a good friend and co-worker of mine was an NYPD officer on duty when it happened. He lost 3 very good friends.

                The scariest thing for me is that a lot of people forget and that's going to lead to something happening again. Maybe not on that level, but we will probably be attacked again, on our own soil, where we feel safe, where we live.
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