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  • #16
    Originally posted by The Master View Post
    Try using sandpaper on the wire then flux to remove the dust.
    you've got the best username i've seen on this board.


    Flux pens are awesome BTW.. I use them all the time at work.

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    • #17
      If regular solder wont work then try silver solder from a welding supply store. It does cost about $50 an ounce but will solder almost any 2 metals together.
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      • #18
        Like I said I just took off the weather pack off the trouble wire and put on a single long normal wire. The location of the 3 wire CTS isn't as hot as the head sender so no worries there.

        Der Meister: I did try sanding it, but didn't try flux.

        Dave, you want me to mail you a section of the wire and you can test your skills and flux pen?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by IsaacHayes View Post
          Like I said I just took off the weather pack off the trouble wire and put on a single long normal wire. The location of the 3 wire CTS isn't as hot as the head sender so no worries there.

          Der Meister: I did try sanding it, but didn't try flux.

          Dave, you want me to mail you a section of the wire and you can test your skills and flux pen?
          I've got like 4 CTS harnesses in the garage..
          Past Builds;
          1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
          1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
          Current Project;
          1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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          • #20
            Yeah but are they the teflon coated mystery wire?
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            1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
            16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
            Original L82 Longblock
            with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
            Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by betterthanyou View Post
              If regular solder wont work then try silver solder from a welding supply store. It does cost about $50 an ounce but will solder almost any 2 metals together.
              Home Depot sells it in three stick packages in the weldong section. Not all HD's have a welding section, though. You have to get it pretty hot, I would suggest MAPP gas or better.
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              • #22
                It is either Copper constantan or Cupronickel.

                Of which both need to be brazed or at least 1200F
                Last edited by Juglenaut; 01-25-2008, 02:03 PM.
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                • #23
                  hehehe yeah my soldering iron doesn't go that high. It's a silver looking wire all the way through. No copper color to it at all.
                  sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                  1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                  16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                  Original L82 Longblock
                  with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                  Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                  • #24
                    both alloys will look like silver especially copper con.

                    poor-solderablility requires brazing brazing:
                    Aluminum or alum-bronze
                    high-alloy steel
                    constantan or alloys greater than 15%

                    Fair:
                    Carbon-steel
                    zinc
                    Nickle pure


                    Easy:
                    Tin
                    Cadmium
                    Gold
                    Silver
                    Palladium
                    Rhodium

                    Good:
                    Copper
                    Bronze
                    Brass
                    Lead
                    Nickel-Silver
                    Beryllium-Copper

                    Usually the more difficult to solder a metal the higher the temp needs to be and also there are differnt solders that are not just the run of the mill lead or tin.
                    Last edited by Juglenaut; 01-26-2008, 02:16 AM.
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                    • #25
                      I got the sucker red-hot with a torch and solder melted and rolled right off it. Funny stuff.
                      sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                      1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                      16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                      Original L82 Longblock
                      with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                      Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                        I've got like 4 CTS harnesses in the garage..
                        I had this happen to me too, its not the CTS harness, its the wire that is on the single wire head SENSOR, not anything harness related, go find a single wire head sensor cut the wire off and I dare you to solder to it, it just wont work.
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                        • #27
                          ^^^ Yup that's what it is.

                          I just wanted to use the connector on it. So what I did was re-pin the connector from the sensor wire, to a new wire and ran that wire down to the 3 wire CTS pig tail. So the stock single wire connector on the harness can still be disconnected (it's now up by the injector harness stuff by the alt). So the harnesses with the injectors and CTS wires can all be disconnected and left on the LIM now like stock.
                          sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                          1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                          16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                          Original L82 Longblock
                          with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                          Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                            I had this happen to me too, its not the CTS harness, its the wire that is on the single wire head SENSOR, not anything harness related, go find a single wire head sensor cut the wire off and I dare you to solder to it, it just wont work.
                            I found one.. i'll try that tomorrow at work. lol
                            Past Builds;
                            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                            Current Project;
                            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                            • #29
                              hhahaha Succeed you will not, Yoda says.
                              sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
                              1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
                              16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
                              Original L82 Longblock
                              with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
                              Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by IsaacHayes View Post
                                hhahaha Succeed you will not, Yoda says.
                                if my 120 watt iron won't do it, i have something gas powered that will...
                                Past Builds;
                                1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                                1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                                Current Project;
                                1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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