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  • Adding a new 660 to the stable.

    Well I am on the lookout for a new vehicle for offroad and camping use. I have narrowed my search to an 88 to 91 Isuzu Trooper. It has a rear axle stronger than a D44 and is a dropout style axle which also makes it a full floater. The front is IFS which I actually prefer since I will be logging more road miles than off road. But the center section is an iron case and is also a dropout style which makes it far stronger than what came in the S-10's. The trooper is also large enough to haul my camping junk inside keeping it dry and also let me sleep inside so I don't have to pack a tent. And the best thing of all the Trooper packs a 2.8L Chev V6.

    So with my search narrowed here are my plans. I got a location on one with a great body but tired, yet still running, engine. So the price is a very reasonable $850. I have a 3.1L crank in my shed than came out of my buddies old 3.1L Cavalier. So I plan to stroke it and overbore it. That should get me up to a 3.2L. The cam will be a stump puller. Something with a 500 to 4500RPM range. The iron heads will stay on with just a gasket match. The TBI will also stay but will be upgraded to 4.3L size. The slightly larger engine should just require a boost in fuel pressure. But if someone has the ability to do some calculations on fuel requirements I would be interested. I run 4.3L injectors on my current 3.4L and I can wind it out to 5500RPM with no lean spots. However this is with lower than stock pressure. So I am thinking that a 3.2L with a low duration cam and a descent boost in fuel pressure on the stock injectors will be sufficient. The cam will require new springs of course and I am looking at some off the shelf LS1 springs. But in order to retain them I think I will need the COMP retainers designed to fit beehive springs to GM Vortec heads which used the older 11/32 stem size. Is anyone able to confirm this? Now with the new springs I will not be able to use the exhaust valve oil shield. Good riddance since the damn things add a good bit of weight to the retainer system. So is there a way to install a stem seal on the exhaust valve of the iron heads? I am thinking the material if the intake stem seal will not handle the heat. I thought at one time I read there was a Fel Pro seal for this application. Is anyone aware of such a beast?

    I will have this engine torn apart from top to bottom so if anyone has some leads on cheep DOHC windage trays or any other goodies I will be glad to scoop them up. This will be a budget build with a very specific goal of big low end torque and reliability. I never want to be stranded off road

    Hope you guys can shed some light on these questions. Thanks and remember iron heads will never die!!!
    1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
    1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
    Because... I am, CANADIAN

  • #2
    Originally posted by betterthanyou View Post
    remember iron heads will never die!!!
    They should


    Sounds like a fun project, good luck!
    Past Builds;
    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
    Current Project;
    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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    • #3
      Well one thing they do have is good port velocity at low lift. It helps with the motor I am trying to build. They do suck for max horsepower and efficiency though. I would rather have the splayed valves and fast burn combustion chambers. But like I said "budget build"

      I just hope to get some answers to the questions I have. Once I get the truck I want to have the engine in and out within a week. I have good connections to parts suppliers, dealer included, and machine shops. So I should be able to make it happen.
      1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
      1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
      Because... I am, CANADIAN

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      • #4
        i do have a set of iron heads for sale. my dad spent 20 hours porting them, they have si valves, comp springs, locks retainers. one head is fresh, the other needs a couple guides. if your interested lemme know. i also got a crap load of other ironhead stuff.

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        • #5
          Cool. Well I will let you know when the engine is out.
          1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
          1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
          Because... I am, CANADIAN

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          • #6
            Well I picked it up tonight. The guy said the engine was tired but it really isn't that bad. There isn't a spot of rust and hardly a ding on it. I lucked out too it has the factory 4.77:1 gears and limited slip. Can't believe I only paid $850. The only bad thing about it was he smoked a pipe inside. So I'm gutting the interior this weekend and washing it top to bottom to get rid of the tobacco smell. But for the price I paid I will do it with a smile.

            Pics will come soon.
            1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
            1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
            Because... I am, CANADIAN

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            • #7
              Cool. Sharkey's stuff could make for one interesting ride!
              sigpic New 2010 project (click image)
              1994 3100 BERETTA. 200,000+ miles
              16.0 1/4 mile when stock. Now ???
              Original L82 Longblock
              with LA1, LX9, LX5 parts
              Manifold-back 2.5" SS Mandrel Exhaust. Hardware is SS too.

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              • #8
                From pics, I dunno if the iron heads beat the 3500 for port velocity.
                Ben
                60DegreeV6.com
                WOT-Tech.com

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                • #9
                  i deliver pizza.... can never get that smell out... i have like 3 air fresheners in my car, 2 of them by the passenger seat, atleast i can make $20+ and hour though, makes it all worth it

                  sounds like a fun project though, i would love to have something like it, now your giving me ideas, lol

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                  • #10
                    Yea it is a pretty sweet rig when you look at how it was all built. No wonder the Aussies go crazy over them. A lot of little feature that make it great for an off roader. So far no fun stuff has happened. Just some minor maintenance stuff. It was loosing oil faster than I could add it LOL. In 3 days it went through about 3L. I knew it was the distributor O-Ring so I got the parts yesterday and changed it a few hours ago. All is well. Now it needs a major engine wash. I also removed all the carpet in the back. The floor will get a coat of bed liner soon. I have been all through the vehicle from front to back and still cannot see a spot of rust. I lucked out big time I am still amazed. I should go get a lottery ticket.
                    1993 EXT. CAB, 3.4L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. Sonoma
                    1990 4Door, 3.2L V6 TBI, 5spd manual. 4X4. Trooper
                    Because... I am, CANADIAN

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