Wiring GURU's, I need your help again

[3100 MPFI]

What does this symbol mean?

I need to bypass the KEY SOLENOID, but it looks like it is a RESISTED GROUND. Can anyone help me with this? This is the first time I have ever came across this symbol, and it has me STUMPED.

Thanks

[Guest]

There's a bunch of symbols in there, which one are you refering to?

[3100 MPFI]

Sorry. Forgot to add that. The whole thing has me so stumped that I forget to add what I needed to know.

one wire is a GROUND, and the other goes to the shifter. At the shifter, the other end is a HOT IN RUN. The thing I am trying to figure out (now circled in RED) looks like it does something to the GROUND before it gets to the shifter (kinda like turns it into a GROUNDED IN RUN). I just need to know how to mimic this so that I can wire up the shifter correctly.

[sil]

looks like a zener diode, but a zener looks like this...

[3100 MPFI]

I found out that it is a DUAL ZENAR (did a search for TRANSORB and found this)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transorb

It is a bidirectional zenar set to mutually opposed. Now I need to know how to replicate this. I have a feeling that there is some info left out of the diagram. The diagram is from a 2002 Grand Prix.

Knowing that it is a bidirectional zenar, does that help to explain how I can replicate this, or should I try to find what I think is some missing information about the key solenoid?

[Juglenaut]

It is a uni-polar transient voltage suppressor, the shematic shows me that is a shunting or snubber device.

The key when inserted is grounded by a 54 ohm resistor, looks like pass key tech, the key moves past the coil inducting a voltage, the positive strike goes to the shifter as a active pulse, when key is removed the shifter portion is momentarily grounded.

What year does this diagram reflect?

[pontiacdohc@gmail.com]

wait what are you trying to do are you trying to by pass the VATS system ??? if so that is easy ? u messure the resitance of the key, then u locate the the two wires under the dash usally both small white wires in a orang eor black tube, then u go get ur self a small potenionmeter i know thats spelled wrong for sure but yeah, u solder two wire to it hook it back up to the volt meter dial in the same resitance that key has and wire it up ! done no more blinking security light and you also go get keys cut that work! also u wont need any kind of bypass mod to run a remote starter.

[3100 MPFI]

I suppose I should have told you what it was for.

I installed a 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix shifter assembly in my 1995 Cutlass Supreme. Main reasons for wanting to use the newer shifter is for mounting the console (don't want to custom make brackets), and to have a working PRNDL.

In the 1995 Cutlass Supreme, the center console is bolted to the shifter in FRONT of the shifter, and in the newer ones, the console is bolted to the REAR of the shifter.

The 1995 uses a CABLE for the key off lock, but the newer one has a WIRE for it (electric signal).

I know that physically, I could use the older shifter, but I have to have a working PRNDL to pass the inspection (the way the older shifter is done I can't make it work near as easily as using the newer shifter).

The diagram is to the KEY ON that signals the shifter to unlock.

I am thinking I might be able to not hook up power to the opposite end of the shifter, but if I can get it to work correctly, that is what I want.

Here is a pic of the connector on the newer shifter, and you can tell by looking at it, that it is nowhere close to matching the older setup.

[Guest]

Seems to me it would be easier to either make a custom PRNDL or buy an aftermarket retrofit kit that many Hot Rodders use.

[grandprixgtp_91]

if you need any gm wiring diagrams let me know, i have access to GM Service Information, yes it is awesome being a GM Tech. there wiring diargrams are awesome.

Jake

[3100 MPFI]

if you can get me a wiring diagram for the COMPLETE key of the 2000 Grand Prix, I would appreciate it.

the diagram that I have shows only 2 wires going to the key for the shifter, and I have a feeling that there is more too it.

What I mean by the key is the PARK LOCK setup that sends power to the shifter to unlock it so that when the key is on, the shifter only needs to get the BRAKE PEDAL signal to unlock.

[grandprixgtp_91]

does this help? let me know.

Jake

[3100 MPFI]

that is part of it. There are 2 more wires from the shifter that I can't figure out. One is a pink/black that is HOT IN RUN, and the other one goes to that pic I originally posted. That is the wire that I need to figure out.

[grandprixgtp_91]

hold on ill see what i can find here i still have SI loaded up

[grandprixgtp_91]

ill just post this while i do some looking, what colour is the wire you cant figure out.

Jake