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    The Problem
    More exhaust backpressure generally means less horsepower, and a stock catalytic converter is often the greatest source of backpressure in an exhaust system. So it's no wonder the catalytic is often tossed in favor of an eBay "test pipe" when a performance-minded owner starts itching for a little more power. But there are a few downsides to de-catting a car - the big one being that it's illegal.

    Hell bent on wrangling every last horsepower out of their steeds, power mongers often run sans-converter on the street; risking tickets, huge fines or even impoundment of their vehicles. But just how much power are they gaining, and is it really worth the risk? If the thought of surrendering your car to the local towing yard keeps you from yanking your converter, there still may be a way to make more power and not break the law.

    Aftermarket catalytic converter manufacturers claim their products can reduce backpressure, helping to free up exhaust flow and make more power. They may have fancy CFM flow graphs and other fancy data to back those claims, but can these kitties really flow better than the OEM pieces? And, how do they compare to the good ol' test pipe, in terms of horsepower?

    To answer these questions, we took a lightly-modded 1999 Honda Civic SI and did four back-to-back dyno pulls: one with the stock cat, one with a test-pipe, and two pulls with OBD II approved aftermarket high-flow cats. Read on, and see with your own eyes how powerful you can become by killing your cat.

    The Test
    Breathing through an aftermarket intake, header and cat-back exhaust system, our Civic mule put down a respectable 147hp and 105 lb-ft to the front wheels on K&N Engineering's dyno. Not too shabby, considering the car was still huffing through the stock OEM catalytic converter. Eager to see what we could gain by uncorking the exhaust, we bolted on the first aftermarket cats.

    Aftermarket high-flow cats come with two different types of guts, metallic and ceramic. The ceramic type is less expensive to manufacture and will melt and fail at lower temperatures - not ideal for high performance applications. The metallic honeycombs can withstand the higher temperatures and richer air-fuel mixtures but are more expensive to make and subsequently cost more. But cost isn't the only factor to consider if you find yourself replacing the cat.

    It's important to ensure that you have the correct type of converter for your application. If your car is OBD I compliant, you can use any EPA or CARB approved OBD I converter. If your car is OBD II compliant, your cat must be OBD II approved. As a general rule, any car 1996 or newer is OBD II and any car 1995 or older is OBD I. However, some cars were OBD II compliant as early as 1994, so double-check the underhood emissions sticker. The difference between OBD I and OBD II cats is bigger than you might think.

    OBD II cats are required to remove about 90 percent of emissions, while the OBD I cats are only required to remove 70 percent. So, put an OBD I cat on an OBD II car and you might fail your emissions testing.

    After removing the OEM cat, we welded and bolted up an OBD II Magnaflow ceramic-core catalytic converter in place of the stock one. With the Magnaflow cat installed, the Honda turned the rollers to the tune of 150hp and 107 lb-ft to the wheels. The ceramic-core cat netted us an additional 3hp and 2 lb-ft to the front wheels. Obviously, this cat really can flow more than stock.

    Next up was the metallic core Magnaflow OBD II cat. Because metallic cats can take more abuse and richer AFRs (and generally flow more), these are often the choice of the performance-minded tuner. After much cursing and a bit of charred flesh, we put the fancy metallic-core cat onto the Civic. Apparently, the metallic core unit does indeed flow slightly better than the ceramic unit. But when we say slight, we mean slight. The metallic core cat netted us a 1hp gain (to 151hp) and no increase in torque over the ceramic core. So, unless you are running a rich AFR (like in a boosted application) the extra cost of the metallic core might not be worth it. However, if you are running a rich mixture, the metallic cat is still your best bet.

    With the testing of all three cats out of the way, it was time to unplug the exhaust and let her rip without that pesky brick in the exhaust. No matter how you cut it, a cat is a restriction and costs power, right? With the moment of truth at hand, we bolted in our test pipe - eliminating the cat entirely. On our final pull we stood eagerly by the dyno's monitor, waiting to see the results. Wait ... here it comes ... 152hp and 108 lb-ft - a gain of one measly horsepower and one lb-ft of torque at the cost of breaking the law.

    The Lowdown
    Now that we've armed you with the facts, you should be ready to make the correct decision should you need to replace your cat. Whether or not you choose to run a cat is between you and Johnny Law. But when you consider the potential gains versus the costs, it hardly seems worth risking getting caught. With a difference of only 1hp between a straight pipe and a 49-state LEGAL cat, it seems foolish to flaunt the law and pollute the air that we all breathe. Hell, if you are only looking for those kinds of gains, just loose 10 pounds -that alone will make your car faster than adding 1 measly HP.

    The 5hp gained from losing the factory cat for the metallic one is substantial. If the engine were to later receive more extensive mods, the benefits would probably be even greater. What it all boils down to is that a good aftermarket high-flow cat can indeed flow better than a stock unit, and almost as well as a straight pipe. When you can have all the benefits of removing the cat without the risk of getting busted, it's kind of like having your cake and eating it too.

    A Caveat
    Before you go off all willy-nilly and replace your cat, there are a few things you should understand first. Contrary to popular belief, not all cats are created equally. The stock factory cats usually do the best job of cleaning up the exhaust, but often at the cost of high backpressure. Aftermarket cat flow and ability to pass emissions testing can be iffy because quality varies greatly. In an effort to save money, some manufacturers cut corners and don't include enough of the agents that actually catalyze and create the heat to burn up the pollutants. Install one of these cats and you might not pass smog. This is why it's important to pick one that is CARB or EPA compliant. These cats have been independently tested and should pass an emissions test.

  • #2
    I wonder how clogged up the stock cat was. A true test would be a brand spanking new OEM cat. Then we can see if you actually gain anything over OEM vs after market. Of course different makes of cars might have different materials, but still..
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    • #3
      i doubt it was vary clogged, they said the car was in good working condition and as long as your car is, you should have minimal clogging over the life

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      • #4
        imho - i'm going the "illegal" route not to make power, but because that way i don't need to waste money on a cat.

        i did my own test back in the day with my 89 silverado. with cat and without cat, at the emissions station. removal of the cat did very little for my emissions production, and it passed both ways.

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        • #5
          i had gutted my cat when i had my manifolds on still. and the only thing out of NOx, but even that passed CARB standards in the 5 gas that we have at the school. so as long as you have a descent running N/A engine with a good cam that doesnt gallop like a clydesdale, then it goes to show how efficient the GM engines are designed.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by patgizz View Post
            imho - i'm going the "illegal" route not to make power, but because that way i don't need to waste money on a cat.

            i did my own test back in the day with my 89 silverado. with cat and without cat, at the emissions station. removal of the cat did very little for my emissions production, and it passed both ways.
            I don't plan on putting cats on my Z24, mainly due to space restrictions. A propperly tuned engine should pass w/o one anyways

            Besides, no testing in Iowa.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Superdave View Post
              I don't plan on putting cats on my Z24, mainly due to space restrictions. A propperly tuned engine should pass w/o one anyways

              Besides, no testing in Iowa.
              but you need a cat to get it check,or is it diffrent by state.
              i just love to watch the wheels turn around and around

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              • #8
                if it came with a cat it has to keep a cat, i doubt the cat in your silverdao was that effcient anyways and the testing equipment was prolly way outdated too

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                • #9
                  i like how people make assumptions to make themselves feel more right.

                  the cat i used was a very low mile(under 20k) catco unit. and it was 4 years after ohio started its e-check program so i doubt the testing equipment was "way outdated"

                  either way. i have 3 vehicles that came with cats that don't have them anymore. the 4th will be without it as soon as i pass e-check as it won't have to go again till 2009 and the program is supposed to be gone by then. have you see what scrapyards pay for gm pellet style converters? there's a place in akron paying $75 each. that's incentive enough to remove it.

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                  • #10
                    i said effcient, you said an 89 truck... that means a replacement only has to meet the standards of that year and 4 years is pretty outdated if your talking about a test during the 90's, there was a pretty big leap in tech. between the 90's and today

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                    • #11
                      Rarely if ever does South Dakota check emissions, if you get lucky a cop may write a fix it ticket, usually no inspections however a slim chance is there and you may have to get the car tested, In SD it is not illegel not to have one it is illegel to have a mech remove it. SD does not impound cars with a faulty or missing cat.

                      Every vehicle is rated on standards based on the OEM manufactured date so a car that never had one doesn't need one.

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                      • #12
                        I thought E Check was abolished in Ohio in 2006? At least it was down here. Don't know about up Nawth.

                        The Emancipation Catsumation

                        Of course, you can still get your car checked if you want, pay 20 bux. Like I would....Been by them places, not much business.

                        And cats do clog, and they come apart inside.

                        I wish I had every old GM cat I tossed in the dumpster back in the 80s.

                        Yep, pretty sure Cats are retired in Ohio.



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                        • #13
                          hahaha!!! ^
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                          • #14
                            all i get out of this is that on honda the test with the test pipe you get 5 more hp and 3lbs of torque more ,to me that sounds like a cheap way to get 5 hp.and what else i get out of this ,is that guys without cats are passing e-test by keepping there engines well tuned.which means is that maybe a cat doesn't do much for a well tune hi-per. engine .that it might be doing more harm than good.
                            i agree with pat ,and my cat is going out ,or gutless,why spend high dollar on a hi-flow cat.
                            i just love to watch the wheels turn around and around

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Juglenaut View Post
                              In SD it is not illegel not to have one it is illegel to have a mech remove it.
                              actually it is illegal to not have one on cars that came with them in all 50 states, that's a federal law. just because a state doesn't test doesn't mean you don't need a cat.


                              red up here (8 counties of greater cleveland and akron) we have through at least the end of this year, then they're supposed to re-evaluate it. nevermind that every interstate from the northeast to the west passes through here and that all our pollution is from all the highways and manufacturing and air traffic and not from people driving dirty cars.

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