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  • #61
    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
    Man, I just welded a bumper for a 4-wheeler, and the TIG would pwn something like that...

    Just make sure you don't get sunburn haha. 250amps@240v is extremely HOT.
    250A X 240V = 60,000Watts?!?!
    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
    Latest nAst1 files here!
    Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
      250A X 240V = 60,000Watts?!?!
      It shouldn't be 240V @ the tip though, probably a lot less. Welders are all about high current, low voltage.



      I agree though, welding burns are never fun.
      Past Builds;
      1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
      1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
      Current Project;
      1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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      • #63
        IIRC Welders put out 15-30vdc depending on the size of the welder.

        A Miller 250a is 28vdc So 7000 watts... Still a good amount.

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        3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
        Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
        Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
        12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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        • #64
          Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
          IIRC Welders put out 15-30vdc depending on the size of the welder.

          A Miller 250a is 28vdc So 7000 watts... Still a good amount.
          Right DC is more dangerous than AC. My Miller peaks at 300amps and 32v iirc.

          Back OT, Dave they at least tacked yet?
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          • #65
            They were but i wasn't happy with how they were turning out. I'm going to ditch the stock GM rubber mounts and start over from scratch.
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • #66
              Originally posted by ForcedFirebird View Post
              Right DC is more dangerous than AC.
              Not true when it comes to voltage amounts.
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              2000 Grand Am GT w/ WOT parts

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              • #67
                Originally posted by sprucegagt View Post
                Not true when it comes to voltage amounts.
                Actually, it is true. Maybe you are saying not at that voltage level? But DC can more easily cause fibrillation and is much more dangerous than AC.

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                • #68
                  Its not the volts that kills ya, its the AMPS... lol

                  Got Lope?
                  3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                  Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                  Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                  12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                    Its not the volts that kills ya, its the AMPS... lol
                    yar.... isn't it something like .1 Amps at the chest will stop your heart?
                    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                    Latest nAst1 files here!
                    Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
                      yar.... isn't it something like .1 Amps at the chest will stop your heart?
                      5 miliamps Across the heart... Ok enough OT...

                      Get building Dave!

                      Got Lope?
                      3500 Build, Comp XFI Cam 218/230 .050 dur .570/.568 lift 113LSA
                      Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                      Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                      12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                        Its not the volts that kills ya, its the AMPS... lol
                        it's a combination of both.


                        you need to have enough voltage (pressure) to get over the resistance of the human body.

                        step 1: Use a multimeter to test the resistance of your body, thumb to thumb (dry).

                        Then solve...

                        V=I*R

                        R is the resistance of your body, I is the accepted .015A needed to disrupt the heart's rhythm.

                        Then you'll know how much applied voltage it would take to pass enough current through your heart to stop it.


                        Back to the car.. shift kit was ordered yesterday, ordering tires tonight and materials to build new motor mounts.
                        Past Builds;
                        1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                        1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                        Current Project;
                        1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                        • #72
                          Back OT... I was lucky enough to be inspecting a 208v/3ph, 3000A switchboard the other day for work. Enough volts and amps to kill me pretty easily. But, at least I was out of the office for a couple days.

                          On-topic... you should fab up some solid mounts like I'm planning.
                          -Brad-
                          89 Mustang : Future 60V6 Power
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by bszopi View Post
                            Back OT... I was lucky enough to be inspecting a 208v/3ph, 3000A switchboard the other day for work. Enough volts and amps to kill me pretty easily. But, at least I was out of the office for a couple days.

                            On-topic... you should fab up some solid mounts like I'm planning.

                            Solid mounts is the direction i decided on after seeing the prices for poly bushings. I've got plenty of 2" square stock and plate steel. Just need some blades for the sawzall.


                            OT, my job usually has me getting shocked weekly, usually it's something like a 400V capacitor discharging into my finger but occasionally i catch a buzz off of a CRT tube. 30kv is better than coffee in the morning.
                            Past Builds;
                            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                            Current Project;
                            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                              occasionally i catch a buzz off of a CRT tube. 30kv is better than coffee in the morning.
                              I remember discharging those with a jumper clipped to a flat headed screwdriver. I thought they ran around 40-50k? Then again, these were TV's and IIRC, the larger the TV, the more voltage the CRT needed to run. Getting bit by 600v riding on a heat sink while converging a big screen while talking to a customer on the phone... Now that was fun...
                              -60v6's 2nd Jon M.
                              91 Black Lumina Z34-5 speed
                              92 Black Lumina Z34 5 speed (getting there, slowly... follow the progress here)
                              94 Red Ford Ranger 2WD-5 speed
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                              Tires are cheap clutches...

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by 3400beretta View Post
                                Actually, it is true. Maybe you are saying not at that voltage level? But DC can more easily cause fibrillation and is much more dangerous than AC.
                                No it's not, at least not in the sense I'm thinking. I used to test equipment for Underwriters Laboratories and other agencies. The standards used for testing explicitly call out the maximum allowed voltages that a user can come in contact (32 Volts rms, 42.4 Volts p_p, 60 Volts DC). These are the voltages were people start getting hurt.

                                Sorry for going OT again Dave.
                                Your local OBDII moderator

                                2000 Grand Am GT w/ WOT parts

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