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  • #31
    ran the new rockers seems better but now having problem getting traction on track during the heat race in feature just got 3 laps done in 45 min because of rookie drivers not keeping line so they called race hopfully they dont come back next week!

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    • #32
      ran the rockers came in 3rd ford probe still faster and a 2.8 caviler beat us all still trin to do differnt stuff goin to try 15 wheels and tires tis week instead of 14's

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      • #33
        Originally posted by 92 chevy c View Post
        not unless i get caught
        It bugs me when I see stuff like this since it reminds me of the people we fight with every week at my track trying to stay ahead of them when we are following the rules to the book. They are making it hard for us to win because they think they can get away with this stuff, and the sad part is typically they do.

        You need to learn how to play the rules game and not break it. Re read your rule book for your division, "stock appearing" is a very vague rule... You could throw a cam and high compression pistons in that thing and that would still appear to be stock... yet run like a raped ape.

        Run through the book, find the gray lines, find those areas that they do not even speak of and play in that area... don't outright break a rule thats written in ink... that will get you DQ'd if you get caught, if its something never before discussed, they may say, ok well no you can't do that, don't bring it back like that next week or next year... and they will make a rules amendment, Just think they cant DQ you for something that they didn't specify.

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        • #34
          i know what your sayin thats pretty much what we are doin with the rockers i dont have time this year to do cam or any thing like that but i know thats what some of theese guys are doin and why we can't keep up.hell some of the cars we were blowin away last year are hard to keep up with i know we were stock last year cause i pulled the motor out of a car with 183000 miles on it changedoil and plugs and ran it and won a couple of races

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          • #35
            hmm.. i wonder what they'd say about you using a bone stock 3400 engine.

            Even with gen2 injectors and a stock tune it would be alot faster than the 3.1. lol
            Past Builds;
            1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
            1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
            Current Project;
            1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Superdave View Post
              hmm.. i wonder what they'd say about you using a bone stock 3400 engine.

              Even with gen2 injectors and a stock tune it would be alot faster than the 3.1. lol
              Yeah but he's running a 92 corsica... The best I can see him getting away with is upping it to a 96 or 95 corsi to get the 3100... But after that the stock apearing rule may also have something that says, only factory engine/car configurations, and then going up to that area if he is using a 5-speed now(kinda doubt it with the amout of 5-speed corsi's out there) he would have to move to a 4t60e... those do not fair well when beat on in stock form.

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              • #37
                thats what i thought i would have to change tranny cause i am runnin a auto.we are goin to try 15 inch wheels and chain down left rear so does not have so much body roll,tryin to do cheap as possible cause we got a hobby stock also my son runs both classes right now engine in machine shop should get back today

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                • #38
                  Chain down the rear tire... wow I guess that division is a little different than what I'm used to.

                  I work on circle track on tar.. www.barnett73.com

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                    Yeah but he's running a 92 corsica... The best I can see him getting away with is upping it to a 96 or 95 corsi to get the 3100... But after that the stock apearing rule may also have something that says, only factory engine/car configurations, and then going up to that area if he is using a 5-speed now(kinda doubt it with the amout of 5-speed corsi's out there) he would have to move to a 4t60e... those do not fair well when beat on in stock form.
                    bolt in a 3500 and use a 3100 UIM on a 95/96 corsica.. hehe
                    Past Builds;
                    1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                    1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                    Current Project;
                    1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Superdave View Post
                      hehe
                      I can hear that evil little chuckle from over here.... lol

                      95-96 still gets stuck with the 4t60e... I think the 3t40 will still hold up better in that application. At least from my personal experience.

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                      12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                      • #41
                        we are getting alot of body roll on dirt need to hold down left rear so does not lift as high hopfully help glide thru turns

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                        • #42
                          we have to chain down cause on dirt we get too much body roll left rear coming up

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                          • #43
                            Double post FTL... lol, yeah I know "why" you need to chain it, but I just mean its a totally different animal when you don't have as much at your disposal as we do... such as jacking bolts, tons of spring rates and all that jaz to play with... I think it may also help that the track we run at has a 26* bank on the corners

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                            Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                            Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                            12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                            • #44
                              this is our track specsTrack Surface - 3/8 Mile High Banked Clay Track



                              Track Width - 72 foot all the way around



                              Corner Banking - 42 degrees

                              so now you can see why we run so hard into corners and get roll as front tire bites

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                                I can hear that evil little chuckle from over here.... lol

                                95-96 still gets stuck with the 4t60e... I think the 3t40 will still hold up better in that application. At least from my personal experience.
                                Either should do ok as long as you use a trans cooler.. but i'd just swap it to a '282..
                                Past Builds;
                                1991 Z24, 3500/5 Spd. 275WHP/259WTQ 13.07@108 MPH
                                1989 Camaro RS, ITB-3500/700R4. 263WHP/263WTQ 13.52@99.2 MPH
                                Current Project;
                                1972 Nova 12.73@105.7 MPH

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