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  • Looking good!
    "I am not what you so glibly call to be a civilized man. I have broken with society for reasons which I alone am able to appreciate. I am therefore not subject to it's stupid laws, and I ask you to never allude to them in my presence again."

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    • SO yeah things never work the first time... I should have thought of this but when I did the outer CV's for N-body brakes the whole outer assembly was swapped onto my axle shaft... This time I only had the inner output stub for the 60e-HD and it didn't come with the tripod inner parts. Come to find out the Beretta parts, or the ones used on this axle do not fit into the larger splined output stub needed for the 60e-HD diff.

      Hopefully Jeff from EP has one of these tripod's that he can send to me so I can get this axle back together.

      Beretta output stub on the bottom.. you can see the difference.


      I got my pushrods yesterday as well... Tonight I'll be installing those slapping on the rocker covers and then trying to figure out how to get the engine out of my basement... LOL

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      • Lmao! How did you get it in your basement in the first place?

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        • It weighs a lot less when in individual pieces I do have a ground level door, well the basement is about 8" lower than the door, but the bigger question is will the stand fit through the two door frames it has to go through... According to my trusty tape measure it should by 1"... but we all know how well that works out.

          Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 04-14-2015, 12:59 PM.

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          • Slow and steady wins the race... LOL

            Got it out of the basement rather easily... Fit through the doors and was able to lift it up and out of the side door with ease.



            And it's made it's way back into the car... SO much room doing this with no wiring harness in the car... I may just pull that every time to make this job easier.


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            12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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            • Looks great as always!
              Matt
              2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
              3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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              • Originally posted by 3400-95-Modified View Post
                Trying some new things....

                Had to re-do the valves since this was only a test and I had not surface prepped them enough. I did a torch test and it held up to direct torch flame very well until I hit a tiny spot that had something under it which caused it to bubble. SO I will be cleaning them up really good tonight and then re-spraying them.





                Interesting.
                When Swaintech coated my heads they used a head gasket for masking.
                As you can see, they also did the exhaust ports (and the valve faces).
                Matt
                2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
                3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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                • Yeah I thought of using a HG for a mask but this is the first time ever that I've coated anything like that and I'm not sure how well this coating will hold up so I figured I'd start small and when I inspect this motor in a couple of years if all is well I may do my second set of heads fully like what your's shows. I also had my valve job done already so i kept the valves in place to protect the lap job.

                  The coating Swaintech used on your heads looks more like the coating that's on my pistons too and that was done locally.

                  Spent a good chunk of time on it Sat AM and go the wiring harness all in and almost completely positioned... Need to play with a few wire locations and get them sitting right... it's been out of the car so long sitting in a pile all the bends are f-ed up and it doesn't want to sit the flattest.

                  Majorly stuck with the axle though. Tripod from the W-body is 34 tooth and larger diameter axle... Mine is 32 tooth and .955 axle diameter, so I can't just swap tripods. I have a W-body axle coming so I can take it all apart and figure out if that tripod perhaps has the same diameter pins that the rollers run on... if they do then I can just swap the rollers over and maybe it will all be good. Worse case I need to put the factory open diff back in the car to get it on the road and through emissions on May 20th and get some custom axles ordered... I figure that will take a while and may f-up my plans of drag racing at Beretta Fest since if it's still the open diff I'm not risking blowing that up down in Mississippi.
                  Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 04-20-2015, 09:48 AM.

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                  • Other updates Drive line in

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                    Headers on for looks...

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                    And wear I found on my old tripod from my axles...

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                    I love doing things twice so with that being said... I installed all the suspension components so I could set the car at ride height and measure axle lengths...

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                    I will be re-moving the suspension again tonight to clean it up and prep for new rear bushings. I'm hoping the axle length I need and parts necessary will have some combo out there and not require a custom length shaft but if it does, I'll just swap the stock diff back in and run what I had in there last year for axle lengths till I can get the new ones... And worse case I drive it to MS like that and just don't drag race. Very disappointing about that, but I guess that's what I get for being the only one to try this shit...

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                    Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                    Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                    12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                    • Um....yeah, I'd say that tripod has seen some abuse.
                      Car looks great though (such pretty headers!), and I'm sure you'll be back on the road soon.
                      Like the Joes Racing stands - I just bought a new tire inflator and gauge from them.
                      Matt
                      2000 Oldsmobile Alero GLS sedan
                      3400/3500 hybrid, Diamond Racing forged pistons, Scat I-beams, TCE DRTC, ported heads, WOT Race cam, PAC 1518s, Manley valves, F40 6-speed with Quaife LSD

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                      • Things are getting close to a start up... Only about 5 parts that need to go on before I can start it. One of those parts are the axles... Without those I can't start it because there is no fluid in the trans.

                        Primed the motor and it runs about 60psi and will kick on the fuel pump when priming so everything is good there.

                        Also trying out a new deadhead routing for the fuel lines. It's a return less style rail and the return fuel that goes back to the tank only runs through the regulator and not under the hot intake. Hopefully that keeps the fuel temps down.

                        Having all this time had caused me to go very slow during assembly so I think everything is going to be 100% set when I start it for the first time.

                        I should know details on my axles today and hopefully they will be able to ship tomorrow at the latest so I can get them for the weekend. Or at least next week. Going to be in Jersey this weekend assembling a playground for my nephews.



                        And one thing I've noticed with this engine... it has a lot of compression or simply a good seal on the cylinders because damn is it tough to turn over with the plugs in it... very little air bleeds by the rings and whatever does it's slow!

                        Also all this time 3 things kept me from going to a full 3500... Thankfully TCE has the internal trigger now which I liked and I'm using, second was the AC mounting which ended up working out with what I did and wasn't that hard... And the third was the trans tail shaft bracket... if I had known it would have only taken 10 min with a de-burring tool and a Malibu Trans bracket would fit I would have done this a while ago.

                        MINT!
                        Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 04-28-2015, 10:10 AM.

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                        12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                        • Ok so if ANYONE needs custom axles... FUCK DSS and RCV... Just talk to Jon a CVsource... He got my axles on Monday(4/27) and had them completed and ready to ship by Wednesday night... I unfortunately did not get his emails on Wed night and Thursday morning for some unknown e-fukup but when I got a hold of him Thursday evening I got him a shipping tag and they went out the door friday. I will have them by Wednesday.

                          And only $265 later... Never mind that he straightened one of the axle shafts because it was slightly bent... and he also upgraded the drivers side inner CV joint which was the quality of light duty aka 4-cylinder applications even though I bought that axle back in 09 for a V6 auto application... Damn cheese ass re-man companies not paying attention.

                          Quickest custom axle turn around I've ever seen...

                          Jon Roberts
                          CV-Source
                          678-889-4118
                          Last edited by 3400-95-Modified; 05-05-2015, 08:50 AM.

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                          12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                          • Well today is the day... Axles are on the truck to be delivered to my house this afternoon. If all goes well I hope to be posting a success or video of the car running later tonight or tomorrow morning. I feel as though I've gone over everything 50 times so I'm expecting this to be rather uneventful but there is always a chance I forgot something so I'm still very nervous or cautious of how tonight will go.

                            Plan of attack,
                            Drool over axles
                            Re-install rear trans bracket
                            Install axles
                            Fill transmission
                            Mount subframes for good and align knuckles with ball joints. (only major issue with the new rear bushings, the control arm will not bend down far enough to insert the ball joint into the knuckle... )
                            Set control arms at ride height, tighten outer CV bolt
                            Prime motor
                            Install oil pump drive shaft
                            Install oil pump drive gear assy
                            Install front header
                            Install upper intake
                            Fit short Intake with MAF
                            Route plug wires
                            then hope for the best.

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                            Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                            12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                            • It's alive!


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                              Fully Balanced, Ported, 3 Angle Valve Job, 65mm TCE TB, S&S Headers.
                              Stage-1 Raybestos/Alto 4t60e-HD, EP LSD, 3.69FDR
                              12.61@105 Epping NH Oct 2015 Nitrous 100shot (melted plugs) 13.58@98.8 N/A 3200LBS

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                              • Sounds great man! Now let's see a dyno sheet after the engine break in!

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