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  • Inspiration IS complete!

    Yeah, cuz I pulled my motor by myself in one night. It may not be that big a deal, but I've never done it before, so yeah me! I'll have pictures tomorrow, I still have to finish converting my 96 harness over.

    UPDATE 2/12/06: The 96 alternator is different. This was an annoying one to find out. Anyone considering this swap should keep that in mind. Also, the water outlet is different, but that is easily swappable between timing covers. Pictures below.

    UPDATE 3/14/06: The engine runs great with OBDII! I got one code for EGR and one for TFP valve (emissions), and no tranny codes. So hopefully when I do drive it it won't so anything funny. Ran it in the garage for 30 minutes tonight. Will do more tomorrow, but it's on the right track.
    I may own a GTO now, but I'm still a 60V6er at heart.

  • #2
    w00t. Can't wait until you get that whole OBD-II conversion worked out.


    1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme International | 3.4L 204ci DOHC 60º V6; Getrag 284 | 1 of 109 | 14.821 @ 95.01 MPH

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    • #3
      Big ups to anyone willing to lay open their knuckles and get their arms dirty. When you've done it a few times, your knuckles wont even bleed when you cut 'em

      Everyone think about it: If everyone did most of their own work, only the really good mechanics would stay in business.

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      • #4
        Finally some pictures of the fun I've been having lately:







        This is becoming quite a familiar site:




        Harness is 90% done, have to change knock sensors and some connectors still. More as is happens.
        I may own a GTO now, but I'm still a 60V6er at heart.

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        • #5
          Looks awesome! I've been gone for a while, but what is the point of changing over to OBD 2?


          1992 Lumina Z34 | 3.4L 207ci DOHC 60º V6; Getrag 284 |
          1994 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP | 3.4L 207ci DOHC 60º V6; Hydra-Matic 4T60E |

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          • #6
            Eat lettuce Josh. Causes healing. Dunno why, but it works.

            And what was the name of the Wi. restaurant we went to?
            I'm slow. Had something to do with cheese.

            Nice carpet in the Garage area.
            If you are driving a Chevy, everything else, is just a blur. 3.4 Carbon Footprint.
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            • #7
              Atta boy! I've got a scar just a hair higher than that on the same hand.

              And a bigger one right on the knuckle from when I got too close to a 15,000rpm 80-grit metallic fairing wheel.

              Didn't hurt as much as I thought it would... Kinda like rugburn... But it made a nasty squelchy noise and splattered bits of Mach10 all over my shirt.




              Insider's tip: Mechanix gloves R t3h aw3som3!

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              • #8
                Looks awesome! I've been gone for a while, but what is the point of changing over to OBD 2?
                Sequential fuel injection, mass air flow sensor, the fact that I can tune the car all day myself without having to pull a chip.
                I may own a GTO now, but I'm still a 60V6er at heart.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by OldSkoolGP
                  Looks awesome! I've been gone for a while, but what is the point of changing over to OBD 2?
                  Sequential fuel injection, mass air flow sensor, the fact that I can tune the car all day myself without having to pull a chip.
                  Now, maybe you answered this in another thread. But what harness are you using?


                  1992 Lumina Z34 | 3.4L 207ci DOHC 60º V6; Getrag 284 |
                  1994 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP | 3.4L 207ci DOHC 60º V6; Hydra-Matic 4T60E |

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                  • #10
                    I've been following things on 60degreev6.com for a while now (especially the LQ1 forums), and I have to say, switching to OBD II is an admirable effort.

                    I mainly replied to let you know that there is a Fiero engine swap/3.8SC/OBD II guru that is looking into expanding his OBD II tuning into the LQ1. The guy's name is Loyd Rascoe & he owns FastFieros, a shop out of Dallas that does the aforementioned 3.8SC engine swaps in Fieros quite often. He's very professional, highly skilled, well-respect, and from what I can tell a nice guy. So far he seems to think that the 96 and 97 LQ1 PCM is the same as the PCM in 3800SC series II engines. I would be inclined to agree with him on that, given his experience with those PCMs. So far he hasn't offered to do really major work with tuning the PCM for the LQ1 engine, but I think he would be a good person to get in contact with if you need help with OBD II on the LQ1, or if you'd like to help him a bit with whatever you know. Either way, there are a lot of people, Fiero owners and W-body folks both, that are looking forward to someone being able to tune LQ1s with OBDII. Keep up the good work.
                    87 Fiero GT
                    2.8 liter v6

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                    • #11
                      If I could get the ODB2 system to work with speed density (not a MAF fan, m'self), I would do it in a heartbeat.

                      As it stands, ODB1 will suit me fine for now

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                      • #12
                        Ill be doin this 100% if I can get the Cutty UB3 digi dash to work on that system..

                        90 Chevy Lumina: 3.1L V6; swapping out for TLQ1
                        94 Cutty Supreme: 3100 V6
                        Soon: Something new?

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                        • #13
                          I'll get in touch with him. Maybe he can help me wade throught he code and "convince" the PCM there is no tranny to worry about. I'm still not 100% sure how I'm gonna pull that off. won't find out for sure till I get the motor running.
                          I may own a GTO now, but I'm still a 60V6er at heart.

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                          • #14
                            The '92 timing cover bracketry for the alternator:



                            Now the '96 timing cover. Notice the more pronounced curve in the aluminum and the lower height of it. Also look by the crank seal. See those two bolt holes? That's the only reason you have to change it in the first place!

                            I may own a GTO now, but I'm still a 60V6er at heart.

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                            • #15
                              Motor was installed last night. New 96 alternator installed, front knock sensor installed in new aluminum plate, harness installed and wires lengthened, GMPD god damn sent me the wrong O2 sensor, so now I have to order one locally and fight with them to take back the wrong one they sent. Hopefully today I can finish wiring and assembly, rewrite the PCM and fire it up.
                              I may own a GTO now, but I'm still a 60V6er at heart.

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