96 topend swap to 91-93?

[OldSkoolGP]

Holy cats! Are you forcing air into that puppy? That would be a nightmare to tune to get it to idle. Good luck with it.

[Kohburn]

yep - T04E turbo and a big intercooler - running a TGP ecm with a moates autoprom setup with wideband input..

I'm a novice tuner - but atleast I can datalog and send the data to someone who does know what they are doing.

[Fierobsessed]

Kinda reminds me of my intake, of course minus the spot for the blower...




Making an intake manifold is a lot of work. Especially one to hold up to forces of pressure, and blower torquing. Aluminum is my poison though.

[Kohburn]

yeah for mounting a supercharger, i'd want more metal for sure -

may as well toss an updated pic into the mix -

[OldSkoolGP]

So I'm assuming you bolt the lower on seperate of that and they're not one piece?

[Kohburn]

yeah mine uses the stock 91-95 lower intake since the coolant passages are incorporated into it

should be able to apply boost pressure to it next week

[Scott205]

bolting on a 96 to a 91-93 shouldn't be too bad. Just have to re-route and extend a few wires, and reroute a few vaccuum and radiator hoses. On mine, I had to move the MAP to the front, ICM to the top (crowded but you can change it in like 20 minutes) extend the wires for MAP, TPS and IAC. You will need the Upper lower intake manifold, Throttle Body, Fuel rail with regulator, the two metal extensions from the rail to the lines.

[dohcfiend]

Im not convinced that the 96 intake is the way to go on most automatic cars. Unless you want to shift at higher RPM, its not going to be better around town. Higher RPM shifting also shortens the transmissions life. Im just guessing on it not being the best for an auto, but I know its great for a 5 speed.

kinda late but i am with him. i have driven all 3 generational changes of the lq1 and i can say that i think the 91-95 intakes are better. it seems to have a noticable amount more low end with the earlier intakes and the high end gain of the later ones is too little, too late.

only reason i have a 96-97 intake is i wanted to upgrade the tb.

but i do believe that the 96-97 heads are better. i think a 91-95 intake on 96-97 heads would be a nice combo.

more food for thought

the data i have gotten from a 5spd(284) it seems faster acceleration-wise but i think the auto's may have more top end. not 100% though

i have only driven the 91-93 and 94-95 computer setup and the 94-95 maf setup is much smoother running.

[OldSkoolGP]

The one thing I know about automatics is the 1-2 RPM upshift gap is eve worse than a 284. It may pull like a bat in first gear, but depending on your power output, your 2nd gear start RPM will be anywhere between 3800-4200 RPM. And you don't get the full use out of the motor because it won't wind out to 7000 RPM, unless Ben revises your chip, but then the longevity of the transmission is in question. Considering it's 100 lbs. lighter, has good ratios, and can handle the revs and then some, I'd still say the 284 is the better tranny, and I still think the 96 intake is the way to go IF you have a manual. It's all about top end when you have a stick.