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    how do i get better throttle response i have a 96 Z34 short ram intake but poor throttle response how can i increase it greatly

  • #2
    Originally posted by xtacyZ34 View Post
    how do i get better throttle response i have a 96 Z34 short ram intake but poor throttle response how can i increase it greatly
    lets see the "short ram"...
    1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
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    • #3
      Poor throttle response, or poor low speed torque?

      You should have excellent throttle response, and fairly weak power until ~4K rpm.
      ^ some people may call this guy an asshole at times, but he isn't wrong very often -- Robert

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      • #4
        mostly throttle but both how do I get more easily

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        • #5
          again, lets see this short ram intake...
          1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
          Latest nAst1 files here!
          Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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          • #6
            Interesting subject!

            I just "86'd" my CAI and put the short 12" X 3" short tube back on my 3500.

            The results?

            Glad you asked. 1.97 for 60'

            99.58 MPH

            14.06 ET on a dead stock 3500 in my Beretta.

            All those bends you guys think look cool, don't flow worth a damn!!

            Average 45* bend on a 3" tube restricts air flow by 30%. 90* by 45%

            How many bends do YOU have??
            Last edited by asylummotorsports; 06-14-2009, 10:22 PM.

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            • #7
              from what i'm assuming, its a ebay "short ram", meaning a horrible HAI, with not enough room between the throttle body and the MAF. that'll screw with the throttle response and power...
              1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
              Latest nAst1 files here!
              Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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              • #8
                I don't have a MAF. And my throttle response and power are just fine.

                Idles like a stock '05 Malibu. Gets 24.9 MPG on the HWY at 3500 RPM. (3.73's)

                I drive it 90 minutes to and from the track and it runs just fine.

                There is ALOT of dead air under a car and in the wheel wells where these CAI's things are normally placed.

                So now it is ":sucking" to find air rather than getting the ambient air that is there.

                Hell I'm no Rocket Scientist, but I can tell you that in MY situation, and others I have monitored, unless you have a degree in aerodynamics and airflow, you are just pretending insofar as what works and where the air is on any of our cars.

                Those often broken air dams are put on there for a reason.
                Last edited by asylummotorsports; 06-14-2009, 10:43 PM.

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                • #9
                  NOT YOU! the 96 Z34 has a MAF.
                  1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                  Latest nAst1 files here!
                  Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                  • #10
                    The fenders have plenty of airflow. If you pull the splashliner and look straight ahead you will see out the front between the headlight and the fender. Not only do you have that but you have the air that is pulled in through the opening in the bumper cover and the air that flows up under the bumper cover. Just because the filter doesnt sit out in the open doesnt mean it doesnt get airflow. There is more cool moving air in the fender than there is in the engine bay anyway.
                    -Matt

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mrl390 View Post
                      The fenders have plenty of airflow. If you pull the splashliner and look straight ahead you will see out the front between the headlight and the fender. Not only do you have that but you have the air that is pulled in through the opening in the bumper cover and the air that flows up under the bumper cover. Just because the filter doesnt sit out in the open doesnt mean it doesnt get airflow. There is more cool moving air in the fender than there is in the engine bay anyway.
                      You may in fact be wrong my friend unless you can show us something different.

                      There is likely "negative air" in those locations.

                      Our cars are designed to cheat the air for fuel mileage, and you may have huge areas of negative or at best compromised air flow in the frontal area of the car.

                      There is air flow for the stock air box but it is limited to that factor alone.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
                        from what i'm assuming, its a ebay "short ram", meaning a horrible HAI, with not enough room between the throttle body and the MAF. that'll screw with the throttle response and power...
                        yeah one of those ill put pics up soon waiting for my car to get out of the shop went in for tranny problems how do i get a better intake then if this one is crap......?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by xtacyZ34 View Post
                          yeah one of those ill put pics up soon waiting for my car to get out of the shop went in for tranny problems how do i get a better intake then if this one is crap......?
                          with our cars, you have to make them yourself, or find somebody that actually knows what they're doing. for starters, the MAF needs to be a good distance away from the throttle body or else you'll get all kinds of drivability issues... i believe the factory distance is 8", i would make it 12 just for extra headroom...
                          1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                          Latest nAst1 files here!
                          Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by robertisaar View Post
                            with our cars, you have to make them yourself, or find somebody that actually knows what they're doing. for starters, the MAF needs to be a good distance away from the throttle body or else you'll get all kinds of drivability issues... i believe the factory distance is 8", i would make it 12 just for extra headroom...
                            now the wires for the maf is hella short how can i make them longer ??? special wires? where an how can i buy would be nice

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                            • #15
                              well the easiest way would be to chop the connector off with at least a few inches of wire and extend them with a wire soldered/heat shrunk on the end of it, then do the same for the other end...
                              1995 Monte Carlo LS 3100, 4T60E...for now, future plans include driving it until the wheels fall off!
                              Latest nAst1 files here!
                              Need a wiring diagram for any GM car or truck from 82-06(and 07-08 cars)? PM me!

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