retard timing ?

[Mitch DOHC]

i have a high stall converter in my auto... so im not really expecting any hit to the low end

[canusa]

ok well i have to work crazy hours over the next couple of days .. but so far everything seems to be in order i just need to put the rest of this beast back together.. and then i can start it yay !!

-canusa

[dykz34]

Ben, weren't you telling me how you fucked up on the measurements and that your "13" is actually closer to 10?

[SappySE107]

Hmmm, ill have to measure it again with that block on the stand. I actually forgot all about that.

[canusa]

ummmmm yea... if that was only 10 degrees i'm gonna do it over to get 13. let us know when you measure it please

-canusa

[Mitch DOHC]

how about this i went out to look at doing the timing and the way it was timed up to start with was that the exhast cam is advanced about 3 degrees from the intake cam.... shouldent both to the cam flats be facing up together... that is the way i under stood it>>>

[canusa]

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[SappySE107]

Ok, I measured AND took pics so this wont confuse anyone. I told a few people a while back the mark I was using wasn't really 13, it was 10. I thought it was 13 but it wasn't. That ridge on the timing chain cover is wider than 1 degree, and we were trying to measure with the engine in the car. I have a cover and the part with the mark on it off the car.

Stock



10 Degree Mark



13 Degree Mark

[canusa]

ok and the 10 degree mark is the one that is most beneficial to us without creating knock and stuff right

[SappySE107]

Nah, going past the real 13 mark is where it gets bad. I thought the real 13 was a bit further. What I had tried was closer to 18. 10 is good for sure, cause that is what I did all the testing with. 13 is something ill try when the car is running again so I know for sure. I think it may be at that anyway since I wanted to go a hair more than I used to. Seems ok if thats the case.

[Mitch DOHC]

so at the stock mark the back cams should be up and the front down... or is it the other way around

[SappySE107]

either way, each bank is 180 the other bank.

[dykz34]

So it was basically dependant upon what side of the line you referenced... No biggie, I'm just here to debunk all the myths.

[SappySE107]

You wouldn't have even known if I didnt say anything. Good job perry mason, no donut for you (maybe a kick in the nuts at the meet though. Bout time I started handing those out for this year.

[Juglenaut]

LoL