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  • Thomas Knight Electric Supercharger Finished!

    Thomas Knight is proud to unleash the revolutionary ESC-550? Electric Supercharger


    Maybe you've seen the tires melt on our ESC?-charged test vehicles at Moroso Motosports Park. Maybe you've seen our full-page ads in Power Pages, Sport Compact, and Turbo Magazine. Or maybe you've seen the buzz across hundreds of message boards and want to know why everyone is so excited about "another POS bilge pump fan that cannot possibly work."

    Well, we have news for you. This is real technology. From a real company. With real test results to back our claims (see "Additional Files" to the right). This is not another eBay leaf blower...

    Then what is it?

    Our patented ESC? is a high-performance supercharger powered by 15,000 watts of electricity instead of your engine's belt. It can add 75+ hp on stock engines up to 3.8L.

    What's it made out of?

    The core of our ESC? 550 is the legendary Eaton roots-type blower. This highly durable unit flows up to 20 psi in 3/10 of a second and is rated up to 425 hp, with an average lifespan of 150,000 miles. Its twin rotors are turned by three custom-wound, 8+ hp electric motors on a CNC-machined, 60-16 T6 aluminum billet. Every unit is made-to-order by Thomas Knight, thoroughly tested and backed by our competitive 1-year warranty.

    Electric motors? Then it must run off your alternator, right?

    Wrong. For years, drawing current straight from an alternator was the misguided approach of countless engineers unable to think outside the box. It simply isn't possible for an alternator to produce enough current to power a real supercharger.

    Then where does the power come from?

    At the push of a button, an ultra-lightweight battery bank injects the 25 hp drive system with 15-second bursts of pure energy. And these aren't regular car batteries! They're MIL-SPEC, specifically designed for hardcore use and lightning-fast recharge. Most importantly, they're totally independent from your vehicle, so you don't suffer the parasitic loss under boost that a turbo or supercharger does. Because this is a universal system, we do not supply these batteries, but we can help you customize your setup towards a specific application. For the average user, we recommend four or more Odyssey 680 high-CCA batteries, manufactured by Hawker (see "Additional Files" to the right). They weigh only 13lbs each.

    Why only short bursts?

    Think of these batteries as your Nitrous tanks. Like NO2, the ESC's instant boost is currently limited in duration, but unlike NO2, that restriction will gradually disappear as battery technology improves. Eventually, high-volume capacitors will allow for almost perpetual usage. Until then, a typical battery bank will yield several runs before recharge. And unlike Nitrous, our system will not cost you thousands of dollars in long-term refilling expenses. Most NO2 users go through at least 1 bottle/week, and at $30 to $45 per bottle, that's a hidden charge of $1,560 a year, every year, forever. With our system, you will never deal with costly refills again.

    No more refills?

    Well, not quite. There is no such thing as free energy. Even our system needs to be recharged, but in this respect, the universal, open-ended design allows for hundreds of ways to do so. It could be as simple as hooking up to a regular battery charger in your garage twice a week, or as futuristic as solar panels. We recommend upgrading to a high-output alternator (like those that power competition audio systems) and bypassing it under boost using a SPDT arming switch. With a 200-amp alternator, you'll fully recharge in 20 minutes while the ESC? is off. So while you're waiting in the staging lanes or cruising along the strip, you can relax and hurl insults at the Nitrous guys while your system preps for another 15-second burst of sheer power.

    That's more than enough time to run the quarter mile or remind those high school kids with the neon muffler bearings who their daddy is.

    What about the extra weight?

    Our ESC? weighs only 42 lb. At just 13 lbs each, a bank with four Odyssey 680 batteries adds another 52 lbs. That's 94 lb in total. In comparison, a full turbo kit can easily weigh 90-100lb, while most belt-driven superchargers weigh 70 lbs. As you can see, this "extra weight" is in the same range as any other aftermarket system. Plus, no parasitic loss means greater horsepower, so our ESC? more than makes up for the difference.
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  • #2
    What controls the fuel delivery, also what continuously varies it's delivery as the batteries loose voltage during it's "burst"?

    Lyle

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    • #3
      Better have MAF, thats all I can think of.
      Ben
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      • #4
        since when does a turbo cause parasitic loss?

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        • #5
          the paricitic loss of the turbo that i think they might be refering to would be the exhaust back preassure that it creates
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          • #6
            So, 15 seconds of boost, then 15 minutes till you can go again.

            I guess its cool if you want an alternative to N2O

            But for a grand and a half, I think you might as well save up and get boost all the time

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            • #7
              hmm thats sort of cool, but having to wait 20 min is the bitch

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              • #8
                stupid, just my opinion
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                • #9
                  where the frell are you going to put 5 680 CCA batteries.

                  Are these batteries set up in series or parallel...12 volt or 48/60 volt??

                  12Volt at 5 batteries 3340 total CCA capacity or 668CCA at 60volt or 668CCA at 48volt.

                  48/60 system 312.5 amps (48volt), 250 amps (60volt) with according to 15K watts of dissipation. Although claimed 25 HP is a underscore 25HP in electromechanical motorforce is 13750 watts. The higher the voltage the less the current active, in other words less current is required.

                  15 seconds for 15k watts dissipation??? That a lot of current so I would have to guess 48/60 volt at 16 or so amps over a duration of 15 seconds would yield close to 15k watts

                  I don't have my formula book here so my numbers might be off on this. I do know that batteries are rated by CCA for capacity.

                  Whatever this is pointless I don't think it is legit or reliable or worth your time. Sounds like bull honky.
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                  • #10
                    I dont see it going into many cars at the price and number of batteries required. Its neat if it works but that is all its worth to me. Basically to say "look riceboy, the leaf blower dont work, this is what it takes". Then again, riceboys may buy it cause they dont have to figure out where to run the oil/coolant lines
                    Ben
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SappySE107
                      I dont see it going into many cars at the price and number of batteries required. Its neat if it works but that is all its worth to me. Basically to say "look riceboy, the leaf blower dont work, this is what it takes". Then again, riceboys may buy it cause they dont have to figure out where to run the oil/coolant lines
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                      • #12
                        I've seen a video of a Maxima that had a Thomas Knight ESC installed. It sounded horrible, like an over-wrought seniors electric cart

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                        • #13
                          Junk!

                          Lyle

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                          • #14
                            "Or maybe you've seen the buzz across hundreds of message boards and want to know why everyone is so excited about "another POS bilge pump fan that cannot possibly work." "

                            Guess this site isn't included in that list of hundreds of sites full of n00bs.
                            Ben
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                            • #15
                              Another thing I was pondering....

                              Is this electric do honker of a motor direct drive or is it geared up...PWM, analog, or digital.. Brushed, coreless, or brushless modified sensored...

                              I have built electronic motor alot and the only way to get alot of RPMs is with a Brushless motor, or coreless split phase geared up to custom. Down side with gearing up is low torque on the output so to hold back pressure on a direct fit system like this is difficult and restrictive on down time causing the engine to possibly run rich as frell..Or mabey not run at all in down time?? The good thing about gearing up is that the motor sees less force compared to that of the output.

                              A good system would use an inverter to step up voltage to 120 and use a split phase, or brushless like I mentioned, and use it geared up to drive a normal supercharger.

                              I would guess a 3hp split phase would chew up close to 30amps at rolling max 70A burst on a dead stop>rolling equiv..and most small standard motors are about 2000 rpms 7 inches long 5 inches in diameter or almost twice the size of an alt.

                              5HP 36/48volt motors are huge even mil-spec>>about 12 inches long or more and 10 or more in diameter. 10hp man BIG

                              PWM motors are limited to size.

                              I good thing about split phase motors, brushless, and coreless motors is that they can produce high RPM's with torque to back it up the more Volts you plug them into, in particular PWM (or AC regulated) brushless motors can produce astounding revs and torque. I had a brushless that could produce 30HP at 40,000 rpm and it was the size of a small coffee can (not the large coffee can).
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