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    How hard would it be to install a fuel cell into a 96 grand prix? I would also like to have braided stainless steal fuel lines. Is there any specific pump/injectors i'd have to get? And what size lines should I run? Its mostly stock now but i'd like to run a turbo in a couple years.

    Thanks!

  • #2
    I just have to ask. Why do you think you need a fuel cell?
    I dont know what this means but "ASS HATS" is funny

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    • #3
      And why in hell would you want "braided steel" fuel hoses?

      Long lengths of braided steel hoses are what people use when they're too lazy to bend steel tubing.

      Hose weighs more; tends to be porous, is REALLY EXPENSIVE, and doesn't last as long as steel tubing.
      ^ some people may call this guy an asshole at times, but he isn't wrong very often -- Robert

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      • #4
        I just have to ask. Why do you think you need a fuel cell?
        My tank is decently rusted and my pump is having issues. I'm just considering throwing a fuel cell in because they aren’t that expensive and they provide a good aftermarket with fuel pumps etc. Everything will be easily serviceable, plus keeps my exhaust straight for the turbo. And I don’t ever plan on selling the car so why not?

        And why in hell would you want "braided steel" fuel hoses?

        Long lengths of braided steel hoses are what people use when they're too lazy to bend steel tubing.

        Hose weighs more; tends to be porous, is REALLY EXPENSIVE, and doesn't last as long as steel tubing.
        Wouldn’t steel tubing have to be welded at the ends? I'm not completely sure but I know braided steel is a pretty good substitute. They last longer under pressure than rubber lines. And you have rubber lines going to the fuel rail and calipers. I think I'll be fine with braided steel. Either way what size should I get?

        BTW This isn’t a daily car.

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        • #5
          You flare the ends with steel tubing, you can buy a 45 degree flaring tool from auto zone for normal brass fittings for about $12-15. You will have to go to a speed shop for the 37 degree flaring tool for AN fittings about $45. You should use about a foot and a half of braided hose from the tank to pump or hard line and then another foot and a half from the other end of the hard line to the fuel rail. You don't want to braided hose under the car because debris can seriously damage it, it takes up to much room, and its hard to attach it to car the car with out screwing it up.
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          • #6
            Dont take my response as a flame. It just that you can install a performance pump in a stock tank. And I know I used to be able to buy a NEW tank for under a hundred dollars many years back so they can not be that expensive.
            I dont know what this means but "ASS HATS" is funny

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            • #7
              i bought a tank from advance autoparts for $110 and a Walbro 255HP pump for another $100. so for a bolt in replacement w/o any BS custom fitting i think the $210 is well worth it.

              Hell go to a junkyard and get a tank for what.... $30-$40 bux.... you will make a larger headache putting in a generic fuel cell.... That just doesn't make sence.....
              Shane "RedZMonte"
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              • #8
                There are so many things wrong about that statement. First off to put a fuel cell in you have to have a place to mount it. You don’t in less you kill the tire well and hang a it under a plate. Or you can put it in a steel shell where the spare was. Bending lines isn’t that hard and braided steel line isn’t what race use any more. They now use Aeroquip rubber lines or braided steel with teflon core. You don’t need that. You can get a pump to go in your current tank for 150$ that can do 500hp any day of the week. Your tank will always have rust on the out side doesn’t mean its on the inside. Change your pump and take a look around the inside for crud. Then put the new pump in and then change the pre filter then install and check your connections and the condition of the wires. Now change the flitter down stream and call it day. That’s the cheap way out a fuel cell isn’t. Are you building a drag/race car or a street driven car that has a gas guage.

                96 Z34 3.4 SC DOHC Getrag, 284 5sd manual transmission, stage 3spec clutch, 97 engine, 97 pcm, S3 intercooler 1 of 1 Roots SC LQ1 in the world 8.5 psi.

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