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  • #16
    RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

    I did. Same results. I will pull the tranny tomorrow and turn the engine to see what happens.

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    • #17
      RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

      Ok, good news and bad news. The engine is fine... uuuffff...... It didnt turn because the one of the bolts fromt he fly wheel got stock with a part of the block. Before starting how is this possible let me give some feed back. Im using an aluminum flywheel and the outer ring where the starter engage is iron. So the moron that designed the flywheel attached the 2 parts with 6 little bolts and whachers. Well, as consecuence the wahshers bent and when the engine idle the car had a anoyin rattle. I fixed by wellding som nuts to the outer ring and use ss bolts. Unfuntenly I didnt check the cleasrance and intalled in a hurry. The bolts started to hit the astarter case and the engine block freeze plug.

      The bad news is that I will have to refix the flywheel. But that its ok, I thought the engine had a damage like bent valves or piston damage. Never the less found on of the pistons plugs with a sligtly oil on it. The engine didnt snoke so pobablay(mostly sure) i will let that alone.

      I feel so refreshed now. I was very depressed yesterday thinking that had to rebuild the engine.

      Thanks for helping Ben. A+ 4 U.

      Dre

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      • #18
        RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

        Oh BTW, what kind of pics of the headres you want? I have a set when they where finished and w/o coating, shots from every good angle.

        I decided to go with shorties due clearance and future boots in mind. The only part that will have to make is the crossover(obviously) to attach the turbo.


        Let me know

        Dre

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        • #19
          RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

          Well, unless you have 50 meg of them, ill just take whatever you think will cover the angles. Sucks that the problem was the flywheel but at least its not a bent valve or something. I was wondering why the valves were that close to the piston already with just that kind of timing change...but you never know:P At least you can fix it without too much hassle it sounds like.
          Ben
          60DegreeV6.com
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          • #20
            RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

            Here you go.





















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            • #21
              RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

              I was wondering the same. How posible the valves hit the pisnton already. Anyway I dont think the engine is an Interference engine. The diff in compression is attributed to the piston dome and head combustion chamber. ALso the cams are worst that the 91-95, the crank is the same.

              The only thing I regret is that had to take all out again. But is better now that leave me on the road. Lesson learned, be more careful at work. Hurry always lead to disaster.

              Well, I will try to fix the flywheel tomorrow. I will let you know how things are going.

              BTW, hope the header pics help you in your ideas.

              Dre

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              • #22
                RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

                How are the cams worse?
                Ben
                60DegreeV6.com
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                • #23
                  RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

                  I mean, retarding the intake will shift the peak hp 1k back, but retarding the intake will kill a bit of tq. Am I wrong?

                  I played with some ideas while back for cam regrinds but since Im unemployed at the time the experiment was put in the lost ideas chest. LOL

                  I have a spare set of 96+ cams for regring and heads for porting when money will be accessible tho.

                  Dre

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                  • #24
                    RE: Re: RE: Dont start after 13* retard Bens style. Ben help

                    Retarding the intake will raise the powerband, hurting low end torque and power. Yeah, the stock timing itself isn't optimal nor is 91-95, but its probably better than 91-95 for the intake setup that the engine has.
                    Ben
                    60DegreeV6.com
                    WOT-Tech.com

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                    • #25
                      Well, I set the Intakes +4* and exhaust -17*. This "will" put the -13* @ 91-95 specs. Im waiting for the ARP flyweel bolts to put all back together and hopefully everything will be fine.

                      BTW Ben, how much is the chip? Whats the latest changes you made to it?


                      Dre

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                      • #26
                        Chips are 125. I haven't done anything to them for a long time now.
                        Ben
                        60DegreeV6.com
                        WOT-Tech.com

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                        • #27
                          Well, I run the car today and the +4* intake and -17* exh doesnt feel good. It actually feels slower. Now I dont feel the pull @3.2k~4k anymore . Also the accelaration feels like a normal car. Very disapointed about perormance, but at least it runs now.

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