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  • #16
    So what's the P/N for the '96/7 belt, if that's the only difference?
    Current:
    \'87 Fiero GT: 12.86@106 - too dam many valves; ran 12.94 @ 112 on new engine, then broke a CV joint
    \'88 Fiero Formula: slow and attention getting; LZ8 followed by LLT power forthcoming
    \'88 BMW 325iX: The penultimate driving machine awaiting a heart transplant

    Gone, mostly forgotten:
    \'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: slow but invisible

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    • #17
      Check with GMPD before buying the bolts. The idler pullies I ordered from them this past summer had new bolts with them.

      I did my timing belt this summer on a 93 and I have to say it is a bitch, but once done, you will certainly feel a sense of accomplishment. If you are going to make the cam hold down tool (http://www.60degreev6.com/modules.ph...rtid=11&page=1), I would suggest beefing it up a bit. I used 5/8" sq key stock with the 1/2" welded on top then drilled the bolt holes. The bolts will then have to be 70mm instead of 50mm. This was my second attempt at them as the first ones bent all to hell when I tried to tighten the cam sprocket bolts, and yes, I had a sprocket holder also, but it slipped and that was all she wrote.

      I also fixed the infamous o-ring, without grinding anything. Just lifted the plug up as far as I could (3/16"-1/4") and cleaned really well around and under it with a brake cleaner soaked rag and let it dry. I then took a Small Block Chevy distributor gasket and cut at an angle through the thickness of the gasket. Put some Permatex RTV Black under the plug and spun it around a bit. I then lifted it back up and slipped the gasket under, paying careful attention to the slit and making sure to spread a small amount of RTV at the slit. Set it down, thightened the hold down bolt and let it sit for a day while I finished the belt. It has not leaked a drop since.

      Good Luck

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      • #18
        Anyone know about this at PartsAmerica? Saw it while pricing timing belt parts for my car.


        WMZZZ

        Oh, and hey 97MonteZ34...
        1995 Monte Carlo Z34 - 3.4L
        1980 Trans Am - 6.6L 400, 428 heads

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        • #19
          Thats what you want. As far as I know, Dayco is the factory brand. That kit contains the tensioner pully (24503561) and the two required idler pullies (24503859).
          You may still need the tensioner actuator. Anyone know if the actuator should always be replaced along with the tensioner pully? Is it the tensioner pully that fails or the tensioner actuator itself?

          -Steven

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          • #20
            Anyone got the GM P/N for the '96-'97 belt? I'd like to price it at the dealership as I get wholesale prices there. Don't make me break out the microfiche... :P
            Current:
            \'87 Fiero GT: 12.86@106 - too dam many valves; ran 12.94 @ 112 on new engine, then broke a CV joint
            \'88 Fiero Formula: slow and attention getting; LZ8 followed by LLT power forthcoming
            \'88 BMW 325iX: The penultimate driving machine awaiting a heart transplant

            Gone, mostly forgotten:
            \'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: slow but invisible

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            • #21
              Nevermind... I got out the microfiche

              '96 belt: 24503363

              Everything else is the same
              Current:
              \'87 Fiero GT: 12.86@106 - too dam many valves; ran 12.94 @ 112 on new engine, then broke a CV joint
              \'88 Fiero Formula: slow and attention getting; LZ8 followed by LLT power forthcoming
              \'88 BMW 325iX: The penultimate driving machine awaiting a heart transplant

              Gone, mostly forgotten:
              \'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: slow but invisible

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              • #22
                Ordered parts from GMPD. Came to $254.53 with shipping.
                Current:
                \'87 Fiero GT: 12.86@106 - too dam many valves; ran 12.94 @ 112 on new engine, then broke a CV joint
                \'88 Fiero Formula: slow and attention getting; LZ8 followed by LLT power forthcoming
                \'88 BMW 325iX: The penultimate driving machine awaiting a heart transplant

                Gone, mostly forgotten:
                \'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: slow but invisible

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by sappyse107
                  If you do the belt, and can take some pics I would appreciate it. I don't have much on the 96/97 engines and would like to cover the unique steps for those engines.

                  And I agree with replacing the tensioner along with the pulley. It can and will fail and should be replaced every 120k minimum.
                  What pics do you want of the process?
                  I have never changed a belt on an early engine, so I don't know what would be unique to the later engine.
                  Current:
                  \'87 Fiero GT: 12.86@106 - too dam many valves; ran 12.94 @ 112 on new engine, then broke a CV joint
                  \'88 Fiero Formula: slow and attention getting; LZ8 followed by LLT power forthcoming
                  \'88 BMW 325iX: The penultimate driving machine awaiting a heart transplant

                  Gone, mostly forgotten:
                  \'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: slow but invisible

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Will'sFiero
                    Ordered parts from GMPD. Came to $254.53 with shipping.
                    Wow.....

                    Heres is what they quoted me.

                    Canadian GM Parts

                    Tensioner Pulley 199.00
                    Belt 150
                    Idlers 76.00 a peice
                    actuater 160.00

                    total cost $760 with tax.

                    And thats If I DO the work.........

                    Can we swear on this forum????
                    Fecking crock suckers....
                    Mather feking robbers
                    Kiss my sweet ride goodbye....

                    God? There is no god, and if there is, he spends all day laughing at me...

                    feking bullcrap...\

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                    • #25
                      How about someone in the US buys them for the better price, and ships them to you?
                      Ben
                      60DegreeV6.com
                      WOT-Tech.com

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by sappyse107
                        How about someone in the US buys them for the better price, and ships them to you?
                        Humm...never thought of that.....you know, I DO have a friend up in Indiana who would help out....

                        Anyone have any American Parts places I can check out?

                        Thanks, sappyse107

                        How come the Store here doesn't list these parts?

                        Test,

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                        • #27
                          I can't get them for a price cheaper than GMPD so I haven't bothered with them on the store.

                          www.rockauto.com would be another place to check but im not sure what all they have.
                          Ben
                          60DegreeV6.com
                          WOT-Tech.com

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                          • #28
                            Oh my friggin Lord in heaven....

                            Can one of you fine folks check my numbers for me please???

                            Canadian Price for all I need:
                            total cost $760 with tax.

                            Or at:

                            Auto Parts for Your Vehicle at Reliably Low Prices. Fast Online Catalog. DIY-Easy. Your Choice of Quality. Full Manufacturer Warranty.


                            Tensioner assembly 37.79
                            Idler Pulleys 17.72
                            Tensioner Pulley 16.26
                            Timing Belt 46.79

                            Total $136.28 US
                            OR $166.05 in canadian funds (not including shipping or taxes)

                            WTF???

                            Am I looking at the wrong parts?

                            This is what I did,
                            Go to www.rockauto.com
                            Use there JAVA based parts locator.
                            92 Z34 Lumina

                            Tensioner assembly
                            Idler Pulleys
                            Tensioner Pulley
                            Timing Belt

                            Wow...guess I'm buying from those guys.....

                            Even with the exchange and taxes, Its still almost $600 bucks cheaper...

                            Thanks sappyse107, I would probably have been raped by GM but for your posts...thanks man...I'd buy you a beer if I could get it to you cold..

                            Test,

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                            • #29
                              Those might be for the serpentine belt, not the timing belt. The tensioner pulley looks awfully cheap for a metal part.

                              The timing belt is right but I have my doubts on the rest. THe timing belt component kit is 125 and I think its the belt with the idler pullies. The tensioner and tensioner pulley I have only found at the dealership or GMPD. WOuld be worth asking them about though to see if that tensioner is in fact for the timing belt and not the accessories.
                              Ben
                              60DegreeV6.com
                              WOT-Tech.com

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                              • #30
                                duplicate post......please remove.t,

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