Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

DOHC Wizards

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • DOHC Wizards

    Hi, I just killed it finally. heh. The car is a 1988 Fiero with a '95 LQ1. Recently the Cam sensor has been throwing a code and and the motor is Jerking violently when I try to feed it more than 35% throttle in 1st gear. The problem isn't as bad when I start in 2nd and give it a good run, but it still jerks around down low. Also something to note: after throwing the cam sensor code is sometimes also throws a Crank code. When the jerking gets violent enough it blows the INJ fuses. I put 25 amp fuses into the slots to prevent fuse genocide, but the only noticeable result was more bucking and jerking in start off rather than blowing a fuse. Every time the fuse((s) , inj 1 or 2) would blow the injectors would not squirt and the motor would just spin and not crank. If at a good speed when they blew, the motor would loose all power and come to a stop. This problem has been getting progressivly worse.

    So today I put a computer on the ECM and was monitoring the symptoms to get a better Idea of what was going on. As soon as the bucking began it threw the Cam code and shortly after the Crank code. I was testing second when I gave it a really good run and the motor died. I reached down and replaced the blown INJ 1 fuse (which was blown) but the motor will still not crank now. I have checked all fuses and all are good. The motor throws a constant Cam sensor now. I dug the cam sensor out of the block and it looks fine other than being hot. The wires all look good until they run into the harness behind the engine and the firewall. Also something of note, the injector and cam wiring run together in the same tail. I pulled the ECM and checked C connector pin 10 (cam sensor) and the pin is fine.

    So what's the problem? Would the engine not start at all if I finally did the Cam sensor in. I though it would crank but run extremely rough. Could replacing that sensor fix the entire system or do you guys think it may be a short in the harness somewhere? When we finished the harness we made sure the harness had no shorts or weak points but that doesn't mean one hasn't developed. My main question is will the cam sensor prevent the motor from cranking.

    I abandoned the car in the campus parking lot and I have no means to lift the car so I can get under it to check wiring.

    Please help.
    -Paul
    Getaway cars:
    1986 Fiero SE | 2.0 OHC Turbo/Intercooled | MT2 5 Speed - 1994 Dodge Stealth | 6G72 SOHC 12v | F4a33 - 1999 Ford Windstar | 3.8 Essex | AX4S -1998 Lexus SC400 | 4.0 DOHC 1UZ | A650E

  • #2
    There are a number of things that will do that on the 3.4 dohc

    Did you check all the ECM and sensor grounds?

    Did you look at the crank, cam sensor wire harness for any pinches or kinks?

    You have to have a short some where too.

    Something has a bad ground or is running hot to blow those fuses, I have seen a faulty injector draw way too much and do that too.

    I have had the fine wires even break inside JUST before the plug which can be fixed by just buying a need plug pig tail.

    If it wasn't for the electric problems the way its running you would think that you got either a Vacuum leak, EGR problem, or a EECS problem.

    Just for fun, I would put a Vacuum Gauge on your engine and even a fuel pressure gauge just to see what is even going on in those areas when its there Idling rough.


    This is a problem that your going to have to paitiently go over and check all these areas.

    Do you have much for tools??
    1991 Grand Prix STE
    3.4 DOHC
    1 of 792 Produced
    Extensive Mods Done

    1991 Lumina Z34
    3.4 DOHC
    Getrag 284 5spd
    1 of 30
    Canadian Z34 Models Made with the Getrag 5spd Wahoooo!

    1980 GMC Sierra Classic C25 With 18,000 ORIGINAL MILES!!!!

    sigpic

    Comment


    • #3
      I've actually started and run a 94 LQ1 with the cam sensor unplugged. So I think you can rule that out.
      If you are driving a Chevy, everything else, is just a blur. 3.4 Carbon Footprint.
      sigpic

      Comment


      • #4
        Your problem is wiring.

        Worse, it sounds like intermittant wiring. I have had engines that cut out when more throttle was applied, so the engine would unload, the engine would cut back in, load up, cut out... It would buck extreemly violently.

        Infact, I bet I know exactly which wire it is for you.

        Injectors are supplied 12 volts via the INJ fuses. The computer grounds the other end of the injector coil to fire it. Guess what else this 15 amp INJ fuse supplies 12 volts to... The crank sensor and the cam sensor!

        I think it's blatently obvious that this injector, crank and cam sensor supply wire is grounding out on something.

        Comment


        • #5
          Agreed!!!!!!!

          Just like was saying too!

          as to one of the problems
          1991 Grand Prix STE
          3.4 DOHC
          1 of 792 Produced
          Extensive Mods Done

          1991 Lumina Z34
          3.4 DOHC
          Getrag 284 5spd
          1 of 30
          Canadian Z34 Models Made with the Getrag 5spd Wahoooo!

          1980 GMC Sierra Classic C25 With 18,000 ORIGINAL MILES!!!!

          sigpic

          Comment

          Working...
          X